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  • vandeleur
    ROTH ARMY SUPREME
    • Sep 2009
    • 9865

    #31
    I haven't been keeping up with all of this but am guessing major health issues will be a gift to trump
    fuck your fucking framing

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    • FORD
      ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

      • Jan 2004
      • 58814

      #32
      Trump ain't the picture of health either. Orange is not a healthy skin color, and he's clearly got high blood pressure with all that anger. Not to mention the obvious questions of his mental state.

      Bernie is in excellent health now - for a 74 year old. Where he would be in 8 years? Hard to say.

      If health was the most important issue, everybody would vote for Jill Stein. Of course she's correct on most of the other issues as well....
      Eat Us And Smile

      Cenk For America 2024!!

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      "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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      • Seshmeister
        ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

        • Oct 2003
        • 35211

        #33
        Originally posted by FORD
        Trump ain't the picture of health either. Orange is not a healthy skin color, and he's clearly got high blood pressure with all that anger. Not to mention the obvious questions of his mental state.
        According to his doctor his health is the best health anyone has ever had...

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        • Seshmeister
          ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

          • Oct 2003
          • 35211

          #34
          Originally posted by FORD
          Bernie is in excellent health now - for a 74 year old. Where he would be in 8 years? Hard to say.
          No not hard to say.

          He'll be 82 which is fucking old and he will be fucked.

          Your 18th century rules are ridiculous, what superstitious nonsense is it to worry about where the mother's vagina was when the baby was born compares to people being too old to be Wal Mart greeters but fine as president?

          They probably just assumed a max age was irrelevant since the people would be dead.

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          • FORD
            ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

            • Jan 2004
            • 58814

            #35
            In this country right now, it's a double edged sword. On the surface it makes sense to want younger people running the country, but on the other hand, if you have a "Democratic" candidate who can't remember any Democratic presidents before Bill Clinton, then that candidate doesn't have the slightest fucking clue what a Democrat is. Same for a Republican who can't remember anything before Reagan in their party.

            Hopefully Bernie - even if he doesn't end up President - has at least inspired the younger generations to realize that this Clinton/Obama/DLC horseshit is NOT the party of FDR/JFK/LBJ/Jimmy Carter. Sadly I'm not sure that a resurrection of Eisenhower Republicans is remotely possible anymore. We had guys like that on the state level, even in my lifetime, but they retired from politics, once the crazies took over
            Eat Us And Smile

            Cenk For America 2024!!

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            "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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            • cadaverdog
              ROTH ARMY SUPREME
              • Aug 2007
              • 8955

              #36
              Originally posted by Seshmeister

              Your 18th century rules are ridiculous, what superstitious nonsense is it to worry about where the mother's vagina was when the baby was born compares to people being too old to be Wal Mart greeters but fine as president?
              Superstitious nonsense? Our forefathers agreed on that stipulation to ensure The United States would be governed by a president that would put our interests first and not be unduly influenced by other countries. Imagine what the world would be like if the POTUS was a German when WWII started.
              Beware of Dog

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              • FORD
                ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                • Jan 2004
                • 58814

                #37
                Imagine if every Republican President AFTER World War II came from the same crowd which enabled Hitler and created Middle Eastern terrorism.

                Oh wait... you don't have to imagine that. It actually happened.
                Eat Us And Smile

                Cenk For America 2024!!

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                "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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                • cadaverdog
                  ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                  • Aug 2007
                  • 8955

                  #38
                  Originally posted by FORD
                  Imagine if every Republican President AFTER World War II came from the same crowd which enabled Hitler and created Middle Eastern terrorism.

                  Oh wait... you don't have to imagine that. It actually happened.
                  How dare you disparage the name of Dwight David Eisenhower, The Supreme Commander of the allied forces in WWII. Saying Ike had anything to do with Hitler other that coordinating the forces that defeated him is total bullshit.
                  Beware of Dog

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                  • cadaverdog
                    ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                    • Aug 2007
                    • 8955

                    #39
                    Originally posted by FORD

                    If there's any truth to this, they need to get it done tomorrow, make sure Bernie is on the ballot in all 50 states and be done with it. Nobody else is legally eligible for nomination, and that includes Kaine. No such thing as a "line of succession" before the election.
                    Beware of Dog

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                    • Seshmeister
                      ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                      • Oct 2003
                      • 35211

                      #40
                      Originally posted by cadaverdog
                      Superstitious nonsense? Our forefathers agreed on that stipulation to ensure The United States would be governed by a president that would put our interests first and not be unduly influenced by other countries. Imagine what the world would be like if the POTUS was a German when WWII started.
                      Maybe he would have done nothing for a couple of years until attacked?

                      What I'm saying is that where your mother is when you are born does not decide your nationality. If Roosevelt's mother was on holiday in Bavaria, gives birth to him and then they come home and he is brought up for his whole life in the US by his American parents then he plainly isn't German.

                      Your forefathers came up with stuff like this because in those days people didn't move around. It's the big problem when following rules written for different times.
                      Last edited by Seshmeister; 09-12-2016, 08:17 AM.

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                      • FORD
                        ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                        • Jan 2004
                        • 58814

                        #41
                        Originally posted by cadaverdog
                        How dare you disparage the name of Dwight David Eisenhower, The Supreme Commander of the allied forces in WWII. Saying Ike had anything to do with Hitler other that coordinating the forces that defeated him is total bullshit.
                        Ike was Prescott Bush's golfing buddy, and he let them con him into running with Nixon as his VP. Aside from that, I do give him a lot of credit for recognizing the BCE agenda for what it was, even in the earliest stages, and doing all he could to warn the American people that it was coming.

                        Unfortunately, they didn't listen.
                        Eat Us And Smile

                        Cenk For America 2024!!

                        Justice Democrats


                        "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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                        • vandeleur
                          ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                          • Sep 2009
                          • 9865

                          #42
                          Originally posted by Seshmeister
                          Maybe he would have done nothing for a couple of years until attacked?

                          .
                          Ssshhhhh don't mention the war
                          fuck your fucking framing

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                          • DONNIEP
                            DIAMOND STATUS
                            • Mar 2004
                            • 13373

                            #43
                            Originally posted by vandeleur
                            Ssshhhhh don't mention the war
                            I heard that
                            American by birth. Southern by the grace of God.

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                            • cadaverdog
                              ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                              • Aug 2007
                              • 8955

                              #44
                              Originally posted by Seshmeister
                              Maybe he would have done nothing for a couple of years until attacked?

                              What I'm saying is that where your mother is when you are born does not decide your nationality. If Roosevelt's mother was on holiday in Bavaria, gives birth to him and then they come home and he is brought up for his whole life in the US by his American parents then he plainly isn't German.

                              Your forefathers came up with stuff like this because in those days people didn't move around. It's the big problem when following rules written for different times.
                              If the POTUS had been German Hitler might not have suckered the Japanese into attacking us. Especially if he made it known he was leaning towards backing Hitler or staying neutral.
                              As far as your other point it's not clear exactly what our forefathers actually agreed on about who can be POTUS and who can't. If Cruz would have beaten Trump we might have cleared that up this election. But he didn't. I believe the wording they used "natural born" is open for interpretation. Does that mean born on US soil or born to US citizens?
                              Beware of Dog

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                              • FORD
                                ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                                • Jan 2004
                                • 58814

                                #45
                                The irony of your question is in the 2008 election. Obama actually WAS born on US soil (Hawaii) while McCain was not (he was born in Colon Panama, which was outside of the canal zone, the US controlled territory at the time). McCain's parents were both US citizens, so nobody questioned his citizenship, but the "natural born" part was technically questionable. Wasn't an issue for me. Sarah Palin was what made McCain ineligible to be President.
                                Eat Us And Smile

                                Cenk For America 2024!!

                                Justice Democrats


                                "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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