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I think Sesh has the first part of your ridiculous comment covered. I have no problem saying Waters is an idiot. Apparently, you seem ignore the giant pieces of mindless shit on your side of the isle. We can start by discussing who's been indicted. What has Maxine Waters been indicted for exactly? Maybe we can start in my yard with that complete smarmy asshole Collins, who everyone hated here - Republicans included. Or the guy in CA that threw his wife under the bus for stealing from campaign funds because "she handled all the finances.."
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If Cheeto can't be impeached for something he did before he was in office, then how did Ken $tarr get away with spending millions of dollars investigating a questionable real estate deal that Bill Clinton was involved in sometime in the early 1980s??
Granted, Starr came up with nothing on those accusations and eventually moved on to Clinton getting his dick sucked, but the original point of the investigation was the old news real estate deal. And unlike what Cheeto did, Clinton's alleged crime had absolutely no impact on the 1992 electionEat Us And Smile
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Yep, Sesh covered my ridiculous comment better than I presented. But, ended up at the same place. Cohen making the claim doesn't automatically implicate Trump for an impeachable offense.
Clearly the investigation will dig into that and should do so... but there's a very complicated legal landscape regarding private funds, paying off floozies and campaign finance laws. It's not trivial nor logical in any possible way. Nothing is simple and straight-forward in legal matters here.
The Clinton/Starr investigation was also another Special Council "witch hunt" which in the long run was a strategic mistake that cost the Republicans considerably. Like this Trump Russian collusion investigation the premise it started under hasn't turned up anything substantial and is only ending up in some sexual soap-opera scandal cesspool where the President is concerned to date... Coincidence..?
Don't think that I'm sitting firmly planted on the Republican side of this... overall I think all this bullshit is a gawd-damned waste of time, money and intellectual capital. Both sides are dirty as all get up. I'd prefer they all get run out of their leadership positions and banned from public service for life. It's a revolting distraction that needs to be cleaned up, wrapped up and the country focused on real issues facing the nation and world."If you want to be a monk... you gotta cook a lot of rice...”Comment
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You are talking about justice or fairness which is irrelevant, impeachment is a political process not a legal one.
There is a good podcast on about the Lewinsky affair called Slow Burn that I would recommend which can shine a historical light on things now from a distance. Some of the FBI guys are quite ashamed about the pressure put on her that she was told she would get 25 years in jail if she didn't admit to the affair when in reality no court would impose a sentence on a 21 year in those circumstances.Comment
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The Mueller investigation is taking on a similar flavor. It's gone from being an investigation on Russian election tampering to a sex scandal. The Star report just gave comedians and late night show hosts great material to make fun of. Bill Clinton's mistake is he lied under oath and he got impeached and disbarred for it. Technically Bill Clinton should have gone to prison for lying under oath but it didn't happen. So as the Mueller investigation starts to read like a tabloid with sex, porn stars, Playboy playmates, and hush money it will give the media something to talk about but as far as hurting the president, it's a nothing burger. Unless Trump commits perjury like Bill Clinton did he's pretty much safe. As long as the economic numbers are up and the markets are up, he has nothing to worry about. All the noise is just partisan ass blasting.No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!Comment
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Ah they just leaned on Cohen and intimidated him into pleading guilty and of course you know there is a deal made for doing so. A guilty plea gives something for the media to hype but the law is so vague on campaign finance that nothing is going to hold up in a court of law. It's trial by media basically. Yup it's a waste of millions of dollars and this and the Starr investigation just proves partisan games are more important to the politicians and bureaucrats than is fixing real problems. Covering ones insider crimes and partisan maneuvering is what it's all about. Hell if we applied the law to most our so called public servants, most of them should be thrown in jail. We probably could nail most of the US congress on insider trading alone.Last edited by Nitro Express; 08-27-2018, 08:02 PM.No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!Comment
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Look. This investigation has been going after all sorts of people. The FBI has even held Ted Malloch when him and his wife were coming into the US to spend Easter with family. This kind of shit is an old game called intimidating friends to turn on friends being investigated. Oh we have this dirt on you but we will make a deal if you ratt so and so out. They held Malloch to search his phone to try and find something to threaten him on. So it's a no brainer. Roger Stone is another guy Mueller has been trying to intimidate. It's search for dirt, intimidate, and try to get someone to turn. That's why this whole investigation has gone from Russian collusion and election tampering to a sex scandal. There is no substance to it. It's a bunch of nothing that has cost the US taxpayer millions.No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!Comment
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The cost is ridiculously irrelevant in the scheme of things.
Some of these people are really really bad people as your president would say. Manafort is a monster and has been for years. Cohen is a total crook and Roger Stone is a creep beyond belief.
I'm not getting this from tabloid pieces or 'fake news' I've known about a couple of these guys for years, they are notorious. The rat statement by Trump was hilarious. It's like the Sopranos but with the cast of Veep.
You and Fox News are talking like the FBI is some left wing pressure group - the FBI are like all law enforcement everywhere and lean to the right.Comment
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BTW I had to Google this fine upstanding character Malloch you were so concerned about and he is another liar with dodgy connections as reported in the Financial Times.
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LOL every last one of those people are liars, crooks and criminals to varying degrees. A lot of people thought electing an "outsider" would be a great thing and expose the establishment politicians as the crooks they are... all it did was add new variants of swamp monsters to an already vile shit hole..."If you want to be a monk... you gotta cook a lot of rice...”Comment
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This time you got a bunch of worse crooks but that doesn't mean that will happen with the next political outsider. France seems to be doing ok with theirs.
It's almost like a lot of people wanted the opposite of Obama so since his was one of the cleanest presidencies in recent years that meant voting for a crook.
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