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  • jacksmar
    Full Member Status

    • Feb 2004
    • 3533

    Ownership by state



    The researchers discovered the variation was due to everything from local and state firearm laws to cultural and social norms. Those who reported the prevalence of a "social gun culture," in fact, were 2.25 times more likely to own a gun.

    "In many parts of the country, these social norms include participation in social activities around gun ownership. These social gun cultures have rarely been formally studied but may be important determinants of gun ownership," the study's authors wrote.

    In the Northeast, gun ownership was below the national average, ranging from 5.8% in Rhode Island to 28.8% in Vermont. In the Midwest and South, ownership ranged from 26.2% in Illinois to 57.9% in Arkansas. And in the West, just more than 20% of Californians own a gun, compared with about 57% in Idaho.

    A NATION OF COWARDS - Jeffrey R. Snyder
  • jacksmar
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    • Feb 2004
    • 3533

    #2
    Wonder how many answered the survey and stated that there were no guns in the home but actually had at least one. I recall when they BHOle assholes rang asking if I supported the ACA and if I owned a gun.

    From what I made out of this info, if 1 in 3 Americans owns a gun then there has been a huge shift in what they term as social gun culture. The press has always been anti-gun as long as I can remember so this info reinforces the point that has been made concerning that the left is talking to themselves. But do remember the press is anti-gun and about as sharp as a wet sack of mice.

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    A NATION OF COWARDS - Jeffrey R. Snyder

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    • Nitro Express
      DIAMOND STATUS
      • Aug 2004
      • 32865

      #3
      Originally posted by jacksmar
      Wonder how many answered the survey and stated that there were no guns in the home but actually had at least one. I recall when they BHOle assholes rang asking if I supported the ACA and if I owned a gun.

      From what I made out of this info, if 1 in 3 Americans owns a gun then there has been a huge shift in what they term as social gun culture. The press has always been anti-gun as long as I can remember so this info reinforces the point that has been made concerning that the left is talking to themselves. But do remember the press is anti-gun and about as sharp as a wet sack of mice.

      ...

      I do have a bunch of them orange things in my range bag.
      No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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      • Seshmeister
        ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

        • Oct 2003
        • 35379

        #4
        Originally posted by jacksmar
        From what I made out of this info, if 1 in 3 Americans owns a gun then there has been a huge shift in what they term as social gun culture. The press has always been anti-gun as long as I can remember so this info reinforces the point that has been made concerning that the left is talking to themselves. But do remember the press is anti-gun and about as sharp as a wet sack of mice.
        Fox News is by far the biggest cable news channel in the US. Fox News is now government TV. Fox News is the most watched news. Fox News is media. Fox News is pro gun.

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        • Kristy
          DIAMOND STATUS
          • Aug 2004
          • 16461

          #5
          That map is pure bullshit. In Texas you are born with a gun.


          Besides, I get it, asscracksmar, you just masturbated with a gun and wanted to tell others.

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          • ZahZoo
            ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

            • Jan 2004
            • 9036

            #6
            Living in the state with the highest percentage of gun ownership... I found one part of that article odd...

            "In many parts of the country, these social norms include participation in social activities around gun ownership."

            What "social activities" are they referring to..?

            Hunting? Not exactly a "social" activity. In most cases, a person sit's solitary in a deer stand waiting for an animal to pass by. You might find a couple of people together in a duck blind... but when you boil it down it's a solitary human with a firearm. It's not a "safe" group activity in any form.

            Do they figure folks gather here with drinks and finger-foods sporting handguns and long-rifles..?

            I've lived in 5 states and city sizes from a few hundred to over a million in population. I see and encounter no more people with firearms in public here in Arkansas than I have anywhere else.
            "If you want to be a monk... you gotta cook a lot of rice...”

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            • Seshmeister
              ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

              • Oct 2003
              • 35379

              #7
              If 1 in 3 people have firearms and there are over 300 million out there, that must mean that there must be a lot people with arsenals.

              Another interesting stat is that 71% of people killed in mass shootings since it's re-legalization in 2004 were killed by an AR15. They should use that in their advertising, it's impressive.

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              • ZahZoo
                ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                • Jan 2004
                • 9036

                #8
                From my experience, gun ownership is a lot like guitars... majority of people may have one or a couple but they spend most of the time gathering dust in a closet out of sight. Then there's the rare few people who have to own everything that is popular and have some massive collection they display in their homes but never use the damn things for the most part. Plus there's the vintage collectors... hoarders with purpose...

                It's interesting... There's a shooting range about a mile down the road from where I live. During the Obama years it was a busy place on weekends year round. Since then it sits empty and quiet 98% of the time with the exception of a few weeks before deer and/or duck hunting seasons.
                "If you want to be a monk... you gotta cook a lot of rice...”

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                • private parts
                  Sniper
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 926

                  #9
                  Originally posted by ZahZoo

                  It's interesting... There's a shooting range about a mile down the road from where I live. During the Obama years it was a busy place on weekends year round. Since then it sits empty and quiet 98% of the time with the exception of a few weeks before deer and/or duck hunting seasons.
                  It might get busy again in about 7 days
                  .
                  sigpic" You ever notice when I scream I sound like Mr. Bill on acid" DLR

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                  • jacksmar
                    Full Member Status

                    • Feb 2004
                    • 3533

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Seshmeister
                    If 1 in 3 people have firearms and there are over 300 million out there, that must mean that there must be a lot people with arsenals.

                    Another interesting stat is that 71% of people killed in mass shootings since it's re-legalization in 2004 were killed by an AR15. They should use that in their advertising, it's impressive.
                    And what was your point? The bolt action rifle, smokeless powder, and revolvers were designed for the battlefield. Each of these was designed to be more tactical. So the Marlin Model 60 is is just fine with you. Got it. Just so long as nobody is killed with an AR15.

                    An infantry assault rifle is designed as it is for convenient, lightweight ease of use for defense and attack in the ranges of 10 to 400 yards allowing the soldier to carry a significant ammo load.

                    There's your advertising....
                    Last edited by jacksmar; 10-31-2018, 05:37 PM.
                    A NATION OF COWARDS - Jeffrey R. Snyder

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                    • Seshmeister
                      ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                      • Oct 2003
                      • 35379

                      #11
                      Originally posted by ZahZoo
                      From my experience, gun ownership is a lot like guitars... majority of people may have one or a couple but they spend most of the time gathering dust in a closet out of sight. Then there's the rare few people who have to own everything that is popular and have some massive collection they display in their homes but never use the damn things for the most part. Plus there's the vintage collectors... hoarders with purpose...

                      It's interesting... There's a shooting range about a mile down the road from where I live. During the Obama years it was a busy place on weekends year round. Since then it sits empty and quiet 98% of the time with the exception of a few weeks before deer and/or duck hunting seasons.
                      It's weird I guess they were somehow frightened by having a black man in the White House?

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                      • ZahZoo
                        ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                        • Jan 2004
                        • 9036

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Seshmeister
                        It's weird I guess they were somehow frightened by having a black man in the White House?
                        I doubt you'll find many who will honestly admit it... but yeah, I believe that a large percentage of people of multiple races feared having a black man as president. Many most likely were not even consciously aware of it, denied it, but their actions drove them to unnatural behaviors and beliefs.

                        If you objectively followed Obama's campaign messages, speeches, executive orders and all of the proposed legislative activities that came out of the White House during his 2 terms... nothing occurred that resulted in restricting gun ownership or sales. The only consistent message Obama had was we need to have responsible dialog addressing gun issues. Those were predominately following some gun related tragedy.

                        Somewhere people planted the seed that Obama was coming for their guns and ammo... sales rose to record levels and ammo shortages were widespread. Oh, and no one came for their guns and ammo. Obama left the White House and the bottom fell out of the whole gun market in the US. What else could have fueled such irrational behavior... fear seems to be the most likely suspect.
                        "If you want to be a monk... you gotta cook a lot of rice...”

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                        • Nitro Express
                          DIAMOND STATUS
                          • Aug 2004
                          • 32865

                          #13
                          Originally posted by ZahZoo
                          I doubt you'll find many who will honestly admit it... but yeah, I believe that a large percentage of people of multiple races feared having a black man as president. Many most likely were not even consciously aware of it, denied it, but their actions drove them to unnatural behaviors and beliefs.

                          If you objectively followed Obama's campaign messages, speeches, executive orders and all of the proposed legislative activities that came out of the White House during his 2 terms... nothing occurred that resulted in restricting gun ownership or sales. The only consistent message Obama had was we need to have responsible dialog addressing gun issues. Those were predominately following some gun related tragedy.

                          Somewhere people planted the seed that Obama was coming for their guns and ammo... sales rose to record levels and ammo shortages were widespread. Oh, and no one came for their guns and ammo. Obama left the White House and the bottom fell out of the whole gun market in the US. What else could have fueled such irrational behavior... fear seems to be the most likely suspect.
                          The reality is let's say whoever is in the White House really does want to take the guns and ammo. Who in the hell are they going to find to do it? Most people who get a government check wouldn't think their pay is enough to justify stirring up that nest of hornets. So in a way having so many citizens armed is a deterrent just because people who some tyrant would send don't want to mess with it. So it's kind of like nukes. They never are going to be used but having them there does deter aggression.
                          No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                          • Nitro Express
                            DIAMOND STATUS
                            • Aug 2004
                            • 32865

                            #14
                            Every country has warts including the US. It ain't a perfect world but in the words of Elon Musk, "America is where the opportunities are". You can start a LLC up in America quick and if you screw up, you can file bankruptcy and start over again. Also there is a huge pool of talented people. The average schmuck here seems to not like to work as hard as their grandparents did but there are people who are motivated and want to go somewhere. America is about doing business. Period. If I wasn't benefiting from living here I would move somewhere else. Why did our ancestors migrate here? Opportunity. The same reason Elon Musk came here. Simple as that. Now people can go on with all this stupid political babble and cry the world is unfair but it accomplishes nothing. Just a lot of noise from people who have time to make noise.
                            No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                            • Nitro Express
                              DIAMOND STATUS
                              • Aug 2004
                              • 32865

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Seshmeister
                              If 1 in 3 people have firearms and there are over 300 million out there, that must mean that there must be a lot people with arsenals.

                              Another interesting stat is that 71% of people killed in mass shootings since it's re-legalization in 2004 were killed by an AR15. They should use that in their advertising, it's impressive.
                              More like gun collections. If you bought the right firearms they have been a great investment. Most the guns owned in this country are never even taken out to the range. They sit in people's collections. As far as the AR-15 goes it's been around since the 1950's and has always been legal to own in the US. They had laws that required certain cosmetic things be changed but if the AR-15 went away there would be plenty of other firearms that would kill people just as effectively. The funny thing is AR-15's have just become more popular and less expensive the more people try to ban them. In the 80's most AR-15 riffles were made by Colt and if you went into a gun store there might be one or two for sale. Now I would say AR-15 type rifles are 25% of the inventory. They really weren't popular because they were overpriced for what they were. Now there are more manufactures of the AR-15 than I can name, Building your own AR-15 is popular. You don't even need to buy a rifle. You can make your own. The amount of parts and accessories available now for the AR-15 is huge. Why the AR-15 is popular is it's easy to customize. The barrel is held in with a big threaded nut. You can change the barrel easy and you can change all sorts of things. You can make the rifle fit you better. This is why the AR-15 platform is popular with target shooters. If you want more power or want to shoot farther you get an AR-10. The reality is the AR-15 isn't going to go away until it becomes obsolete.

                              Of course if you really wanted to ban guns you do that by banning ammunition or the components that go into making the ammunition. But since it's an emotional issue people focus on the guns. It's really all just emotional hype with no real strategic intelligence. Make a 223 or 5.56 round cost $100 each then you reduce the amount of what someone can stuff into a high capacity magazine. That's of course if the person hasn't already purchased several thousand rounds for 30 cents each at Cheaper Than Dirt.
                              No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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