Cheeto Doubles Down on calling Nazis "very fine people" and praises a fellow traitor
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Originally posted by Marge SchottEverything you read, when he came in he was good. They built tremendous highways and got all the factories going. He went nuts, he went berserk. I think his own generals tried to kill him, didn't they?Writing In All Proper Case Takes Extra Time, Is Confusing To Read, And Is Completely Pointless.Comment
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The problem with the "people that fought against him" is the same problem we run into with the British painting Rommel and the end-all military genius. It's a very convenient way to mask that your people in command sucked. Grant didn't suck, but he wasn't the highest on the list of geniuses either. Gen. Lee's exploits cannot be accurately gauged because he fought with the home field advantage on 95% of hs battles and lacked decisiveness and clarity in the North and lost his only major battle there, sacrificing some of his best troops as has often been the charge against Gen. Grant...Comment
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1. Monuments were expensive. In the era just after the war most places could ill afford to build them when they were trying to rebuild their infrastructure and industry.
2. Most of the monuments were built 1900 - 1920s. What coincides with this time? All the Civil War vets were dying.
3. A renewal of patriotism because of the Span Am War, WWI.
So what if Lee didn't want them? He was dead and groups of people wanted statues of him anyway.Comment
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The problem with the "people that fought against him" is the same problem we run into with the British painting Rommel and the end-all military genius. It's a very convenient way to mask that your people in command sucked. Grant didn't suck, but he wasn't the highest on the list of geniuses either.
Gen. Lee's exploits cannot be accurately gauged because he fought with the home field advantage on 95% of hs battles and lacked decisiveness and clarity in the North and lost his only major battle there, sacrificing some of his best troops as has often been the charge against Gen. Grant...
I'd contend that Lee's other northern invasion was pretty bad too. He was beat at Antietam and could have been pushed into the river if McClelland had moved after Sept 17.Comment
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2. Most of the monuments were built 1900 - 1920s. What coincides with this time? All the Civil War vets were dying.
3. A renewal of patriotism because of the Span Am War, WWI.
So what if Lee didn't want them? He was dead and groups of people wanted statues of him anyway.Comment
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So the positive writings of people who were actually there, both the people that fought against him, and with him, are invalid? If these same people were critical of him, do they not count either? I'm not saying he was some flawless genius, but he was a great general. Good generals will take advantage of an opponent that "sucked". Grant had his issues, yes. His Vicksburg Campaign was a probably his greatest.
Yeah, technically, but the distances for either side in the Eastern Theatre were not that big. Federal forces in the west had much larger distances to contend with and we know how Sherman overcame that. I don't think it's fair to say Lee had a huge advantage fighting in Virginia when the Feds LOC were pretty much the same.
I'd contend that Lee's other northern invasion was pretty bad too. He was beat at Antietam and could have been pushed into the river if McClelland had moved after Sept 17.Comment
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It used to be that way. Alexandria was pretty much like DC but by the time you went a little further south to Fredricksburg you were in the south. Now so many outsiders have moved into northern Virginia for the jobs the southern influence has been diluted. Same thing with Texas. So many outsiders have moved in for the jobs the Texas accent is disappearing. Houston is just another big city and you can go to Galveston on a weekend and hear very few southern drawls. The northerners are moving to the southern cities because that's where the jobs are.No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!Comment
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The south had it's problems but Lincoln pushed it to war. He was a tyrant of a president. It all boils down to bravado. Lincoln thought he could flex his muscle and bring a quick end to the south's will to succeed and the south thought they would whip them yankee invaders asses and send them running back north. People thought the war would last a few weeks and then people would come to their senses. Nobody did. The end result was over 600,000 dead Americans and bad blood that exists to this day. That's war for ya. It all depends where you live. If you lived in the south and had Sherman's army burn everything and your sister got raped by union troops and your brother got killed fighting them, you wouldn't like yankees either and that anger just gets passed down the generations and takes a long time to go away.No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!Comment
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Most people don't give a damn about politics but if you piss in their Cheerios they get pissed and don't like you.No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!Comment
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