Medicare For All Would Create Jobs and Raise Wages Says New Study

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  • Romeo Delight
    ROCKSTAR

    • Feb 2005
    • 5140

    #16
    Originally posted by ZahZoo
    Unfortunately it's not simple in any way, shape or form... you really can't just roll back the last 100 years of evolution in the medical industry and simplify it down to the cost of a small package of gauze.

    Just the complexity of federal, state and local regulation. Then the layers upon layers of real estate, property, infrastructure, utilities, staff, IT, administration and payment processing before you can get to an admissions person, nurse, specialists, technicians, and finally a doctor... the $1.50 package of gauze ends up closer to $200 of overhead just to order it and stock it on a shelf. Then add the specialized labor cost to put the bandage on the booboo...
    You say this like it is supposed to be this way...with this logic, a McDonald's Big Mac should cost $150

    You are conveniently bypassing the fact that the gauze ends up costing the multiples more because of the fundamental flaws in the system.

    Evolution? More like Corruption. In this day and age of AI and Supply chain advancements, costs are going down dramatically for every other industry. It's just a lie that costs are increasing for Health care
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    • Nickdfresh
      SUPER MODERATOR

      • Oct 2004
      • 49229

      #17
      Originally posted by Nitro Express
      You know nothing about me or who I vote for. We are talking decades of incompetence and corruption and now it’s all come to roost. That being said you are still better off here than many other places. Damage is done. Blaming does no good.
      Sorry, but it reminds me of the adage that hard right conservatives/pseudo-libertarians say gov't never works, then get elected to prove it...

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      • ZahZoo
        ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

        • Jan 2004
        • 8979

        #18
        Originally posted by Romeo Delight
        You say this like it is supposed to be this way...with this logic, a McDonald's Big Mac should cost $150

        You are conveniently bypassing the fact that the gauze ends up costing the multiples more because of the fundamental flaws in the system.

        Evolution? More like Corruption. In this day and age of AI and Supply chain advancements, costs are going down dramatically for every other industry. It's just a lie that costs are increasing for Health care
        Oh no, I didn't intend to legitimize the current state of the medical industry nor make any sort of supportive value judgement. It's a rotten mess from one end to the other.

        The point I was attempting make was it's a huge mess to unravel if we were to simplify it down to a reasonable cost basis... using the gauze example. Between publicly funded insurance federal/state and then private insurers with the huge state level webs they've weaved... then the layers of service providers from the solo primary care physician to the mega hospitals... it's amazing anyone can afford to keep this working with all the financial elements feeding off it.
        "If you want to be a monk... you gotta cook a lot of rice...”

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