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For those who are still keeping track, Arizona was FINALLY called for Biden - at least by the other half of those who didn't call it on election night.
The NY Times map, which seems to be the one who takes their time making the calls more than the others still shows North Carolina and Georgia technically "un-called". North Carolina's official deadline for mail ballots to come in (if properly postmarked) was today, so I would expect an official call there tomorrow. Looks like a narrow Cheeto win there, he's currently leading 50% - 48.7%.
Georgia was called for Biden already, but it was close enough to allow a recount. Just stalling tactics from Team Cheeto..... Biden's expected to keep the lead there, and even if he somehow didn't, the combined 31 electoral votes of these two states still wouldn't give Cheeto the win.
So assuming Biden holds on to GA, and Cheeto wins NC, final electoral vote counts will be:
Biden - 306
Cheeto - 232Eat Us And Smile
Cenk For America 2024!!
Justice Democrats
"If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992Comment
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Here's what the final electoral map looks like....
Eat Us And Smile
Cenk For America 2024!!
Justice Democrats
"If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992Comment
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Despite NickBUMBentia's denial, it is obvious there was some hanky panky with this election. I have full confidence good will prevail and the greatest President in the history of these United States, will remain in his rightful seat in the Oval Office for the next 4 years. Like Gore before, Biden will be bitch slapped back to reality. Fortunately for him, he won't remember what happened. Horizontal Harris will, and she will just have to deal with her loss.
The reelection campaign of President Donald Trump, having failed to persuade the majority of American voters, is now making its case to the American courts. The campaign and its allies aren’t doing much better in the latter quest than they did in the former. Close to half of the two dozen or so cases brought since Election Day in key swing states have already been withdrawn or tossed by judges, with many of the rest seemingly destined for a similar fate. American politics may be notoriously divided, but inside the halls of justice, at least one example of unanimity seems to be prevailing: Whether the judges are liberal or conservative, working for state or federal courts, they’ve overwhelmingly demanded that the Trump and Republican plaintiffs deliver evidence to back their claims and they’ve been quick to reject what they consider baseless lawsuits.Comment
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The Lincoln Project Attacks Law Firms Trying to Subvert Democracy
Yes, going after Trump’s law firms is fair game
The law firm of Jones Day is seen in Washington in August.
Opinion by
Randall D. Eliason
November 12, 2020 at 4:52 p.m. EST
The Lincoln Project, the anti-Trump group founded by a number of prominent Republicans, turned its attention — and ire — this week to the law firms helping President Trump contest the election. It launched a social media campaign encouraging the public, and perhaps more ominously, other firm clients, to confront the law firms of Jones Day and Porter Wright Morris & Arthur about their work on lawsuits challenging the election results.
The Lincoln Project was even briefly locked out of Twitter for a post that identified individual Porter Wright attorneys and encouraged the Lincoln Project’s 2.7 million followers to contact them. It’s never appropriate to subject individuals to harassment or threats. But holding law firms publicly accountable for their decisions to be involved in these cases is fair game.
As a general rule, we don’t want to discourage attorneys from representing unpopular clients. But facts matter, and there are some important distinctions to draw when deciding whether public criticism of attorneys is out of bounds.
The first distinction is criminal cases vs. civil litigation. An individual being criminally prosecuted has a constitutional right to legal representation. Defending the accused can be an ethical and professional obligation for a lawyer. A defense lawyer should not be shamed for representing an unpopular client confronting the awesome power of a government that could deprive him of his liberty or even his life. Conservatives have criticized attorneys defending terrorism suspects; liberals have criticized attorneys representing sexual predators such as Jeffrey Epstein. Both were wrong. But that principle does not come into play here. In the current situation, Trump is not being criminally investigated or prosecuted.
The second distinction is offense vs. defense. Helping a client who has been sued in a civil case and needs a defense is different from agreeing to initiate a case. Even an unsavory client deserves counsel if they are being hauled into court by another party or are being investigated by the government. True, an attorney does not have to agree to take on such a defense, but doing so is a response to litigation brought by others, not an affirmative invocation of the power of the courts.
That brings us to the lawsuits challenging the election. The Trump campaign and Republican groups in these cases are playing offense, not defense. They have filed lawsuits that appear to contain baseless allegations of fraud and that seek to have lawful votes rejected. For the attorneys, agreeing to bring such cases represents a choice, not a professional obligation. It's fair for the public to hold accountable any lawyers who make that choice.
This public opprobrium is not because the client is unpopular; after all, Jones Day has received millions in fees from Trump and the Republicans over the years and was never subject to such a vigorous backlash. It’s because of the nature of the lawsuits. We want the ACLU to sue to uphold the First Amendment rights of unpopular clients like the Ku Klux Klan to march in a parade. But if a lawyer helps the Klan attack a civil rights law by filing a frivolous suit designed primarily to inflame racial tensions, why should that lawyer be immune from public criticism?
Clearly feeling the heat, Jones Day issued a statement saying it is not involved in suits alleging voter fraud or contesting the results of the election. The firm represents Pennsylvania Republicans in a Supreme Court case involving a court-ordered extension of the deadline for mail-in ballots. This claim has more legal basis than some of the other election-related litigation. Yet it is still a lawsuit seeking to reject thousands of votes cast in reliance on a ruling that sought to make voting easier during the pandemic. And although we now know there were not enough such votes to change the result in Pennsylvania, at the time the suit was filed it had the potential to affect the outcome of the election by disenfranchising thousands of voters.
A court may impose sanctions against a lawyer and firm for bringing a frivolous suit. But there’s no guarantee that will happen, and no reason that needs to be the only possible consequence for baseless or harmful lawsuits. Firm clients may choose to take their legal business elsewhere. Law students and lawyers looking for jobs may bypass the firms or may press them about this work when interviewing. Other lawyers already at the firms may choose to leave, as one Porter Wright attorney reportedly has already done. And members of the public may voice their disapproval, as many are doing now.
Law is a profession, but these mega-law firms are also big businesses. Like any business, they can be held accountable by the public — and by their other customers — for how they choose to deploy their considerable resources. It’s not out of bounds to criticize those who agree to bring cases that could be so damaging to our democracy.
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You know, Donald Trump is the genetically-modified, bastard grandson of Adolph Hitler's uncle?
Hey, it is as believable as any other lie I have heard.....needs to be spread around a bit with some fake genealogical "evidence", lol.Comment
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Look at Zahzoo here. This BS works.Comment
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It's funny, you Libtards have spent the last 4 years crying about a rigged election. Now it's all of the sudden impossible to have a rigged election.
The greatest President in the history of these United States, Donald Trump, will remain President for the next 4 years.Comment
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It's funny, you Libtards have spent the last 4 years crying about a rigged election. Now it's all of the sudden impossible to have a rigged election.
The greatest President in the history of these United States, Donald Trump, will remain President for the next 4 years.
He'll be the pResident in your fag fantasies!Comment
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I had the balls to move on and not perpetuate fantasies about stolen elections and winning/whining. Fuck, I don't like Hillary all that much but she looks really classy and great next to this fucking clown!!
Lock him up!Comment
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It's funny, you Libtards have spent the last 4 years crying about a rigged election. Now it's all of the sudden impossible to have a rigged election.
The greatest President in the history of these United States, Donald Trump, will remain President for the next 4 years.Eat Us And Smile
Cenk For America 2024!!
Justice Democrats
"If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992Comment
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Eat Us And Smile
Cenk For America 2024!!
Justice Democrats
"If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992Comment
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Eat Us And Smile
Cenk For America 2024!!
Justice Democrats
"If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992Comment
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It's funny, you Libtards have spent the last 4 years crying about a rigged election. Now it's all of the sudden impossible to have a rigged election.
The greatest President in the history of these United States, Donald Trump, will remain President for the next 4 years.
It is a bit tougher now than it was before the vote counting machines, though.
There have been votes disqualified in this election due to lack of signatures, lack of postmarks, lack of id, mail in ballots not mailed in time, failure to fill out ballots properly, etc. These same things have happened in every state in every election.
In terms of a wholesale conspiracy to illegally throw the election to Biden? The evidence simply has not been presented that this happened, other than inadmissible hearsay and claims that have been debunked.
There's no proof, and the only argument being made in the face of this lack of proof is that the absence of evidence doesn't equal evidence of absence: we FEEL the election was stolen from Trump, thus and therefore it must be true.Scramby eggs and bacon.Comment
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