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  • Nickdfresh
    SUPER MODERATOR

    • Oct 2004
    • 49567

    Trump on "THE JEWSS"

    Sara Boboltz
    Fri, December 17, 2021, 5:40 PM
    Former President Donald Trump made a jaw-dropping series of anti-Semitic claims about Jewish Americans controlling institutions of government and media in a new interview where he said evangelical Americans “love Israel more than the Jews in this country.”

    “It used to be Israel had absolute power over Congress, and today I think it’s the exact opposite,” he said.

    Trump had been speaking to Barak Ravid, an Israeli journalist for Axios who wrote a book on Trump’s Middle Eastern policies. Ravid discussed his conversation with the former president on a podcast called “Unholy: Two Jews on the News,” which aired a clip of the interview Friday.

    New quotes from Trump to @BarakRavid: Most US Jews don't love Israel. Exclusive for Unholy podcast
    @Freedlandpic.twitter.com/Hv4joYkbCN

    — Yonit Levi (@LeviYonit) December 17, 2021

    Trump started speaking first about his father, saying Fred Trump “was very close with many Jewish people” due to his work in the New York City real estate industry. He then suggested that American Jews used to have “a great love of Israel” and that this has “dissipated over the years.”

    “I must be honest. It’s a very dangerous thing that’s happening,” Trump said. “People in this country that are Jewish no longer love Israel.”

    He went on: “I’ll tell you, the evangelical Christians love Israel more than the Jews in this country.”

    “It used to be Israel had absolute power over Congress,” Trump said. “And today I think it’s the exact opposite. And I think Obama and Biden did that. And yet in the election, they still get a lot of votes from Jewish people, which tells you that the Jewish people ― and I’ve said this for a long time ― the Jewish people in the United States either don’t like Israel or don’t care about Israel.”

    Many evangelicals support Israel because they believe it is central to a Biblical prophecy foretelling the apocalypse, which they welcome in the belief it will reunite them with Christ.

    However, Trump’s comments echo claims made in 2019, when, as president, he said Jews who vote for Democrats show “great disloyalty” to Israel. He earned criticism at the time from a Jewish advocacy group that said it was “a form of anti-Semitism” to suggest that Jewish Americans are not full Americans.

    The idea that Jewish people supposedly control global politics and culture at the expense of non-Jews is a common, centuries-old anti-Semitic trope.

    But Trump was not done.

    “I mean, you look at The New York Times ― The New York Times hates Israel. Hates ’em. And they’re Jewish people that run The New York Times. I mean, the Sulzbergers,” Trump said. (Arthur Ochs Sulzberger Jr. was the longtime chairman of The New York Times Company; he was succeeded by his son, A.G. Sulzberger. They have Jewish ancestry but, according to the Times of Israel, some descendants were raised Protestant.)

    “Unholy” host Jonathan Freedland said Trump’s comments were rife with “classic anti-Semitic tropes” and “a whole lot of negative stereotypes about Jews.”

    “This is the guy who, after white supremacists went on the march in Charlottesville, said there were ‘very fine people on both sides,’” Freedland said.

    Anti-Defamation League CEO Jonathan Greenblatt summed it up neatly, saying on CNN Trump’s comments “fall somewhere between stunning and stupid.”

    This article originally appeared on HuffPost and has been updated.
  • Nickdfresh
    SUPER MODERATOR

    • Oct 2004
    • 49567

    #2
    he said evangelical Americans “love Israel more than the Jews in this country.
    Yeah, they love them because they believe they're all going to die in a "Rapture"...

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    • Seshmeister
      ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

      • Oct 2003
      • 35754

      #3
      Originally posted by Nickdfresh

      “It used to be Israel had absolute power over Congress, and today I think it’s the exact opposite,” he said.

      Assuming that's true why would an American think that was bad????

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      • Nitro Express
        DIAMOND STATUS
        • Aug 2004
        • 32942

        #4
        Ha! Americans can’t agree on anything anymore. All the divide and conquer games have diddled plenty of minds over here. To be honest, a lot of people here couldn’t even find Israel on a map.
        No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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        • FORD
          ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

          • Jan 2004
          • 59615

          #5
          Cheeto said his father was “was very close with many Jewish people”. Did he wear his white Klan sheets to their Passover seders??
          Eat Us And Smile

          Cenk For America 2024!!

          Justice Democrats


          "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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          • Terry
            DIAMOND STATUS
            • Jan 2004
            • 12126

            #6
            Originally posted by Seshmeister
            Assuming that's true why would an American think that was bad????
            It's just this...I dunno if allure is the right word...but certainly a sway Israel has had within American politics over the last 70-odd years.

            And if one even so much as questions in a critical way how Israel treats Palestine, or if one asks if it is really in America's best interests to, say, invade or bomb Iran because of their harsh posturing toward Israel, or if one asks fundamental questions about what America 'gets' out of its special relationship with Israel in purely transactional/geopolitical terms (i.e. is our friendship with Israel more trouble than it's worth) one is branded anti-semitic.

            For those of us who think religion - ALL religion - is bullshit, Israel's claims of being 'the chosen people' ring hollow. However, the reality is we live in a world where plenty of people put faith/stock in religion, so even non-believers have to grapple with 'the chosen people' when assessing Israel...you can't assess Israel in purely political terms, because their religion is inseparable from their politics.
            Scramby eggs and bacon.

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            • Terry
              DIAMOND STATUS
              • Jan 2004
              • 12126

              #7
              Originally posted by Nitro Express
              Ha! Americans can’t agree on anything anymore. All the divide and conquer games have diddled plenty of minds over here. To be honest, a lot of people here couldn’t even find Israel on a map.
              I mean, duh! Everybody knows it's somewhere out West, just South of Idaho, right?
              Scramby eggs and bacon.

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              • FORD
                ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                • Jan 2004
                • 59615

                #8
                Originally posted by Terry
                I mean, duh! Everybody knows it's somewhere out West, just South of Idaho, right?
                Well... the Mormons did call Utah "the new Zion", so that's not entirely inaccurate.
                Eat Us And Smile

                Cenk For America 2024!!

                Justice Democrats


                "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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                • Nitro Express
                  DIAMOND STATUS
                  • Aug 2004
                  • 32942

                  #9
                  Parts of Israel do look like parts of Utah. Ha! Ha!
                  No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                  • Nitro Express
                    DIAMOND STATUS
                    • Aug 2004
                    • 32942

                    #10
                    Ivanka converted to Judaism and she's Don's favorite offspring.
                    No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                    • Terry
                      DIAMOND STATUS
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 12126

                      #11
                      Originally posted by FORD
                      Well... the Mormons did call Utah "the new Zion", so that's not entirely inaccurate.
                      And as any reasonable person knows, Mormonism is the one true faith.
                      Scramby eggs and bacon.

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                      • FORD
                        ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                        • Jan 2004
                        • 59615

                        #12
                        Praise Elohim!

                        Eat Us And Smile

                        Cenk For America 2024!!

                        Justice Democrats


                        "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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                        • Terry
                          DIAMOND STATUS
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 12126

                          #13
                          I mean, we're all reasonably certain that Donny and Marie were diddling each other, right?
                          Scramby eggs and bacon.

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                          • Nitro Express
                            DIAMOND STATUS
                            • Aug 2004
                            • 32942

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Terry
                            I mean, we're all reasonably certain that Donny and Marie were diddling each other, right?
                            Donny probably got a ton of ass. That’s why he was smiling all the time.
                            No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                            • Nitro Express
                              DIAMOND STATUS
                              • Aug 2004
                              • 32942

                              #15
                              Originally posted by FORD
                              Praise Elohim!

                              Hi to Kolob!
                              No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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