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  • FORD
    ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

    • Jan 2004
    • 59245

    Uh oh.... looks like Pooty lost Winnie the Xi Jin-Pooh

    aljazeera.com
    ‘Don’t see why not’: China envoy on backing Ukraine’s ’91 borders
    Priyanka Shankar




    Brussels, Belgium – China’s envoy to the European Union has suggested that Beijing could back Ukraine’s aims of reclaiming its 1991 territorial integrity, which includes Crimea – the peninsula annexed by Russia in 2014.

    In a recent interview with Al Jazeera and two other media outlets, when Fu Cong was asked about supporting Kyiv’s goals, which includes reclaiming other Ukrainian regions now occupied by Russia, the senior Chinese diplomat said: “I don’t see why not.

    “We respect the territorial integrity of all countries. So when China established relations with the former Soviet Union, that’s what we agreed. But as I said, these are historical issues that need to be negotiated and resolved by Russia and Ukraine and that is what we stand for.”

    The Chinese ambassador’s comments followed the 2023 Europe-China Business Summit in Brussels on June 16.

    In an interview with the New York Times in April, Fu said that Beijing did not recognize Moscow’s efforts to annex Ukrainian territories including Crimea and the Donbas.

    Since Ukraine gained independence from the Soviet Union in 1991, Russia annexed Crimea in 2014 and backed separatist uprisings in parts of Luhansk and Donetsk, which are in the Donbas region of eastern Ukraine.

    Although Russia has claimed the peninsula and has extended its occupation in the Donbas, Western powers do not recognize Moscow’s moves.

    Besides Fu, Chinese leaders generally refrain from making public comments on Russia’s annexation of Ukrainian territories.

    When a United Nations referendum on recognizing Crimea’s annexation was held in 2014, China abstained from voting and Liu Jieyi, China’s envoy to the UN at the time said: “China has always opposed intervention in the internal affairs of states and respected the sovereignty and territorial integrity of all countries”- a stance the Chinese foreign ministry reiterated in a statement in April.


    Catch up on our coverage of the region, all in one place.

    China has not officially condemned the Kremlin for invading Ukraine in February 2022 and after Russian mercenary fighters threatened a large-scale rebellion in Moscow over the weekend, China’s alliance with Vladimir Putin remains strong.

    “As Russia’s friendly neighbour and comprehensive strategic partner of coordination for the new era, China supports Russia in maintaining national stability and achieving development and prosperity,” China’s foreign ministry said in a statement on Monday, downplaying the unexpected mutiny led by Wagner boss Yevgeny Prigozhin as an “internal affair.”

    Ambassador Fu defended China’s position on Ukraine, saying it “has been very clear”.

    “We advocate peace and we believe that it is important to achieve peace as soon as possible by resolving differences on the negotiating table,” he said.

    In February, Beijing released a 12-point proposal aimed at finding a “political settlement” to end the war. As part of these efforts, China sent ambassador Li Hui to Kyiv, Moscow and other European countries last month.

    But Beijing’s renewed “no-limits” partnership with Moscow and its position on Russia’s war in Ukraine have seen China’s ties with the EU cool to a frost.

    Last week, as Chinese Premier Li Qiang visited Europe for the first time since he took office, EU leaders urged him to get tough on Moscow.

    The Baltic nations and Poland are particularly frustrated with China, and back imposing sanctions against Beijing and reducing economic dependencies.

    In March, before a trip to China, European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen said the bloc should focus on “de-risking” with China, rather than “de-coupling”.

    Fu told Al Jazeera that while China understands the EU’s ambitions for a resilient supply chain, the bloc “should not conflate economic security with national security, making it hurt free trade”.

    “De-risking should not become de-coupling in another name. The recent developments in the EU over Huawei and ZTE have been concerning,” Fu said, referring to the European Commission’s proposal to ban Huawei and ZTE from 5G networks earlier this month.

    “There is no evidence that they are harming cybersecurity and in our view, these baseless accusations go against the spirit of fair play and fair competition, which actually Europe claims to be the champion,” Fu added.

    Besides bans, last week, the EU targeted Chinese entities which are allegedly supporting “Russia’s military and industrial complex in its war of aggression against Ukraine” in an eleventh sanctions package against Moscow.

    Prior to the announcement of more sanctions, Fu said China has not committed to stopping companies from helping Russia, but he hoped through “dialogue, misunderstandings could be resolved”.

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    of course, this is China, so when they talk about the "territorial integrity of all nations" that's probably code for "yeah, we're going to take Taiwan back, so get the fuck out of our way"
    Eat Us And Smile

    Cenk For America 2024!!

    Justice Democrats


    "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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    • Nickdfresh
      SUPER MODERATOR

      • Oct 2004
      • 49386

      Last edited by Nickdfresh; 08-04-2023, 06:15 PM.

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      • Seshmeister
        ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

        • Oct 2003
        • 35530

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        • Nickdfresh
          SUPER MODERATOR

          • Oct 2004
          • 49386

          Russian Kerch Bridge to occupied Crimea was attacked again, smoke rises and billows despite the Russians 100% intercept success rate...

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          • Nickdfresh
            SUPER MODERATOR

            • Oct 2004
            • 49386


            Ukrainian Counterintelligence destroyed a Russian BMPT "Terminator" 'tank-support vehicle'. They are rare and expensive and apparently don't work all that well:
            Last edited by Nickdfresh; 08-12-2023, 10:49 PM.

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            • Kristy
              DIAMOND STATUS
              • Aug 2004
              • 16571

              This is fucking great. Shit band = total shit show



              "I'm not your bother...?"

              Fuck off.

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              • Seshmeister
                ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                • Oct 2003
                • 35530

                It's the rest of the band I always feel sorry for when a singer pulls a dumb fuck maneuver like this.

                He's fucking 42 years old at this point...

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                • FORD
                  ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                  • Jan 2004
                  • 59245

                  He's a Mormon, so he believes we're all literally "brothers" as spirit children of Elohim, Our Heavenly Father.
                  Eat Us And Smile

                  Cenk For America 2024!!

                  Justice Democrats


                  "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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                  • Nickdfresh
                    SUPER MODERATOR

                    • Oct 2004
                    • 49386

                    Originally posted by Seshmeister
                    It's the rest of the band I always feel sorry for when a singer pulls a dumb fuck maneuver like this.

                    He's fucking 42 years old at this point...
                    It's not just the Soviet thing and Ukraine War...

                    And if he ever read or watched news he's old enough to know about the Russian invasion and occupation of Ossetia in the late 2000's. I know he's a musician and maybe that's not his thing but you are playing in other countries so maybe read a fucking summary or something...

                    I think a lot of Russian men fled there to evade the draft and there was already a minority of Russian speakers ethnic Georgians fear as fifth-columnists...

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                    • Kristy
                      DIAMOND STATUS
                      • Aug 2004
                      • 16571

                      Originally posted by Nickdfresh
                      It's not just the Soviet thing and Ukraine War...

                      And if he ever read or watched news he's old enough to know about the Russian invasion and occupation of Ossetia in the late 2000's. I know he's a musician and maybe that's not his thing but you are playing in other countries so maybe read a fucking summary or something...
                      Many Georgians remember 2008 all too well when Putin invaded their country. Now it's more than obvious that this dispshit of a band are whores for their corporate label (island) and that their audience consist mainly of other dispshits who graduated high school between 2008 and 2015 who think a stupid band with a stupid name really speaks to them. So you can easily guess history and the knowledge of history is not big on their corporate agenda. This not just a fuck-up where you invite an audience member on stage who cannot play an instrument worth a shit (See: U2) this is flat out ignorance and for that singer dipshit to causally mention he is from America also shows his arrogance. What, does he want a cookie or something? The audience took this personally and they had every right to yet the band remain clueless and tries to sell their Commie "can't we all just get along" nonsense.


                      I hope they die.

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                      • Nickdfresh
                        SUPER MODERATOR

                        • Oct 2004
                        • 49386

                        On the other hand, The Killers are still around? They should be playing casinos in the state of Georgia, not venues in the nation of Georgia LOL...

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                        • Seshmeister
                          ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                          • Oct 2003
                          • 35530

                          Yeah they are literally playing casinos in the US next month.

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                          • Nickdfresh
                            SUPER MODERATOR

                            • Oct 2004
                            • 49386

                            Wagner Leader Prigozhin in Plane Crash?

                            As Elvis would say, HMmmmmmmm....

                            Private jet crash in Russia kills 10. Wagner chief Prigozhin was on passenger list
                            Associated Press
                            Updated Wed, August 23, 2023 at 2:21 PM EDT·2 min read
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                            FILE - Russian businessman Yevgeny Prigozhin is shown prior to a meeting of Russian President Vladimir Putin and Chinese President Xi Jinping in the Kremlin in Moscow, Russia, on July 4, 2017. A business jet en route from Moscow to St. Petersburg crashed Wednesday Aug. 23, 2023, killing all ten people on board, Russian emergency officials said. Mercenary chief Yevgeny Prigozhin was on the passenger list, officials said, but it wasn't immediately clear if he was on board. (Sergei Ilnitsky/Pool via AP, File) (ASSOCIATED PRESS)More
                            MOSCOW (AP) — A private jet crashed in Russia on Wednesday, killing all 10 people aboard, emergency officials said. Mercenary chief Yevgeny Prigozhin was on the passenger list, but it wasn't immediately clear if he was on board.

                            Prigozhin’s fate has been the subject of intense speculation ever since he mounted a short-lived mutiny against Russia’s military leadership in late June. The Kremlin said the founder of the Wagner private military company, which fought alongside Russia’s regular army in Ukraine, would be exiled to Belarus.

                            But the mercenary chief has since reportedly popped up in Russia, leading to further questions about his future.

                            Mercenary leader Yevgeny Prigozhin, who led a brief armed rebellion against the Russian military earlier this year, was presumed dead Wednesday after a plane crash north of Moscow that killed all 10 people on board. Prigozhin was on the plane, according to Russia’s civil aviation agency, which cited the airline. At the time, President Vladimir Putin denounced the rebellion as “treason” and a “stab in the back” and vowed to avenge it.

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                            • Nickdfresh
                              SUPER MODERATOR

                              • Oct 2004
                              • 49386

                              CNBC is saying he's listed as 200, or dead...

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                              • Kristy
                                DIAMOND STATUS
                                • Aug 2004
                                • 16571

                                Last I heard of him he Prigozhin was in Africa doing Putin's bidding by slaughtering the poor and defenseless for more Kremlin puppet governments. If this fucker truly is dead, it's going to be a great day.

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