KID ROCK Is an Idiot Supreme

[Rikk]

Why are you so obsessed with Trannies, Nickdcheapbeerdrinkingtrannylover?

Is this the only right-wing argument? That to defend somebody who is not affecting you whatsoever that you must be "obsessed" with them? C'mon, VON...you're a lot smarter than that.

I personally don't understand the whole trans issue very much at all. I'm a straight white guy in his 40s with a wife and daughter, a big house and I love rock music.

I just believe in not limiting people's desires to live freely if they're not harming me or harming Americans in general.

I personally don't understand people who like mineral water, Machine Gun Kelly, sniffing glue, the band Journey, the T.V. show Grey's Anatomy, Marvel movies...I've never had a gay relationship or affair of any sort... There are plenty of things in which I have no personal interest. I also don't believe that people should actually believe that Sammy Hagar is better than David Lee Roth.

But I believe people should be allowed to like these things and enjoy their own lives. Just because I defend people's rights to enjoy or experience these things does not in any way mean I'm obsessed with these things myself.

In fact, anyone saying I'm obsessed with Grey's Anatomy just because I believe my wife should be allowed to still watch it really doesn't know me.

[Von Halen]

OK...why do I know Stroh's. Is it because my wife is from Michigan?

Pardon my ignorance...I grew up outside Toronto. (Live in Chicago now.)

I'll be in Chicago tomorrow, for the weekend.

[Von Halen]

Is this the only right-wing argument? That to defend somebody who is not affecting you whatsoever that you must be "obsessed" with them? C'mon, VON...you're a lot smarter than that.

I personally don't understand the whole trans issue very much at all. I'm a straight white guy in his 40s with a wife and daughter, a big house and I love rock music.

I just believe in not limiting people's desires to live freely if they're not harming me or harming Americans in general.

I don't give a fuck about trannies. There's been one working in the hobby shop I frequent, for 30 years. (S)he knows his/her shit about hobby stuff. I never gave a fuck about how it lived its life then, still don't today. (S)he was an ugly motherfucker back then, and is even uglier today as age has taken its toll. Very nice person though.

[Nickdfresh]

I don't give a fuck about trannies. There's been one working in the hobby shop I frequent, for 30 years. (S)he knows his/her shit about hobby stuff. I never gave a fuck about how it lived its life then, still don't today. (S)he was an ugly motherfucker back then, and is even uglier today as age has taken its toll. Very nice person though.

Well dude, what kind of hobbies are you into? You know what never mind!

[Von Halen]

Well dude, what kind of hobbies are you into? You know what never mind!

Trannies! :D

[Kristy]

I'll be in Chicago tomorrow, for the weekend.

Chicago is full of libtards, Von.


Hypocrite

[Rikk]

I'll be in Chicago tomorrow, for the weekend.

Business trip?

What you planning to do?

We have a truly awesome city. (Don't believe all the crap about the insane crime...most of that happens on one side of the city.)

I truly hope you enjoy Chicago!!

[Rikk]

Trannies! :D

LMFAO!! (Ok...that was funny.)

[Von Halen]

Business trip?

What you planning to do?

We have a truly awesome city. (Don't believe all the crap about the insane crime...most of that happens on one side of the city.)

I truly hope you enjoy Chicago!!

We are going to the Chicago Theatre. We usually come for Tedeschi Trucks, but not this year.

[Rikk]

We are going to the Chicago Theatre. We usually come for Tedeschi Trucks, but not this year.

What are you seeing at the Chicago Theatre?

I like Tedeschi Trucks.

I have a feeling you don't like the Dead, but I thought I'd ask...do you? Reason I ask is a lot of people who like Tedeschi Trucks like The Dead too. (I go every year to see the Dead at Wrigley, though this is allegedly the last summer.)

[FORD]

[Nickdfresh]

Trannies! :D

You made me spit beer you prick! :D

I was afraid you were going to tell us about your model buggies!

[Nitro Express]

You really need to stop saying "ruffle the feathers." It's the exact term politicians funded by white supremacists would use when justifying why equal rights should be a slower, if possibly never, process.

You see, marriage is a human phenomenon, not a Christian one. The Bible (and all churches) have created their own version of it's recognition under their own Gods. But marriage goes back at least 6,500 years.

To rename it something else with the same rights (civil union) so that it doesn't "ruffle the feathers" (as you keep saying) of a minority of the population who believe same-sex couples should NOT be afforded the same societal status is one of the lamest justifications I've heard. Seriously, over 70% of the country considers denying it to same-sex couples just another form of bigotry. But you keep insisting that we shouldn't "ruffle feathers" of bigots or those who believe their religion somehow should transcend human society WAY BEFORE CHRISTIANITY and American law Constitutionally recognized as OUTSIDE religion, protected by a clear separation of church and state.

I'm sorry to break it to you, but the 71% of Americans (ESPECIALLY THOSE WHO ARE GAY AND WANT TO BE MARRIED) really don't typically give a shit about "ruffling feathers" of people who believe a portion of our population deserve less rights than others.

I'm agnostic. I have some atheistic friends who believe they should spend their time pushing their own beliefs about God's supposed non-existence onto those who believe He does exist. I have no interest in such conversations. My wife believes in God and I'm happy for her. I personally got married in a Catholic church because it made my wife's family happy and my family didn't care. But the minute those same people had decided to tell me just what KIND of a marriage I could have, one that would perhaps have a different name and be recognized in a manner separate from others, I would have told those same people to go fuck themselves.

To keep going back to the need not to "ruffle feathers" is the last desperate grasp of someone who knows all the other facts are against them so they keep begging people to not progress so that it keeps the minority of those who hate gay people and somehow believe that Jesus would have wanted to live a very exclusive society from being angry.

It's not an argument. It's basically saying, "Hey, I know you're TECHNICALLY right, but couldn't everybody be happy if we just GAVE these people the same legal rights but called it something else to keep the country clubbers happy?" And the answer is, FUCK NO. Who cares if they don't like it?

To argue that people asking for their own legal rights are dividing the country is moronic.

I tend to look at it as I live my own life and get angry if people try and limit my own reasonable freedoms. I could give a shit how other people live their own lives as long as they are not reasonably messing with my life and my family's life or normal people.

WANT ANOTHER TEST: Who are really affected by gay marriage? The religious people who think homosexuality is disgusting? Jesus? Churches? No...they're not affected one bit. They don't like it...so they simply don't need to go to a gay wedding. Does it makes their lives any worse if gay people are called "married" instead of "joined by civil union"? No, this does NOT remotely affect their own lives. NO. THE ONLY PEOPLE AFFECTED BY WHETHER OR NOT THERE ARE GAY MARRIAGES...ARE GAY PEOPLE. That's it. One could not make a reasonable argument as to why it affects anyone else. Not one.

I've even heard this: "Gay people are disgusting. I don't want to picture what it's like when they have sex with each other." Well, maybe I don't want to watch it either...but I'm not asking to be invited into their bedrooms to be a spectator. Because you know what? I don't want to watch any of my straight friends having sex with their spouses either. I would probably find that, for the most part, pretty unpleasant.

It affects nobody but gay people. And they are plenty more affected if you take away a 6,500 year-old human phenomenon away from them than from those who simply don't like it.

Let’s write a fucking novel.

[Nickdfresh]

$20 a 6-pack for this 4% alcohol American Adjunct Lager swill! Somehow even gayer than Bud Light, it's a can of AIDS...

Probably brewed in China...

[Nitro Express]

Yeah, it wasn't bad and a lot like PBR, pretty sure the PBR guys own the brand but not sure where or if they still distribute it...

Stroh's is love LOL

It used to be on tap everywhere in the 80’s.