More Examples of Valiant Muslim Freedom Fighters

[franksters]

Anyway wherever there are some muslim or islamist call it whatever you want there is trouble...
They want everybody to be like them...
If they are in a minority they use the live and let live approach and they want freedom of right...

but if they are in a majority everybody as to go by there rules...

I say if I go there my wife and i will have to obey there law (hijab,beard and so forth)..
well I say if you come here you must obey our law and if you don't like it get the fuck out..

there all hypocrites anyway and there religion will catch up with them somewhere in there life..

I say long live to FRANCE who just passed a law forbidding any religious sign in there schools and in there government office.

I wish we would do that here.

You want to be here well adapt or find somewhere else to go.

[Sgt Schultz]

And just in case you were still thinking this was justified because of the poor Chechans...............

Russian Siege Sparks World Horror, Solidarity

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By Claudia Parsons

LONDON (Reuters) - Tragic, despicable, inhumane, cowardly, barbaric, evil, and astonishing -- the deaths of a hundred or more people including children in a siege in Russia sparked strong words for the hostage-takers from world leaders.

"This is yet another grim reminder of the lengths to which terrorists will go to threaten the civilized world," President Bush (news - web sites) told a campaign rally in Wisconsin.

British Prime Minister Tony Blair (news - web sites) wrote to Russian President Vladimir Putin (news - web sites) saying: "It is hard to express my revulsion at the inhumanity of terrorists prepared to put children and their parents through such suffering."

Some analysts questioned Russian security forces' tactics in storming the school, though Moscow has said the move was forced on them when hostage-takers opened fire on fleeing children.

"I suspect that Putin's immediate concern will have been to be seen to be strong rather than be seen to be negotiating," said Alex Standish, editor of Jane's Intelligence Digest.

"And if that means sacrificing civilians caught up in the middle, I don't suspect that is the key issue as far as Putin is concerned," he said.

In a statement in the name of the presidency of the 25-nation EU, Dutch Foreign Minister Bernard Bot said all countries should work together to prevent such tragedies.

"But we also would like to know from the Russian authorities how this tragedy could have happened," he added.

World leaders focused on support and solidarity for Russia.

"Killing of these innocent people is an evil, despicable act of barbarism. The fact that many of them appear to have been young children murdered in cold blood is simply horrible," said the President of the European Commission (news - web sites) Romano Prodi.

"IMMENSE PAIN"

Chief Vatican (news - web sites) spokesman Joaquin Navarro-Valls said news of the tragedy was received with sadness at the Vatican.

"There is sadness for the huge loss of life and for the immense pain of the parents and families of victims resulting from an act of terrorism," he said.

German Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder said everyone in his country was "moved with sympathy" for the victims and their families. "Here terrorists without conscience tried to reach political goals by murdering people," he said.

Gernot Erler, foreign policy expert of Schroeder's Social Democrats, said Putin could not have given in to the hostage takers. "In this case he really had no choice but to say 'No' to the demands," Erler told NDR radio.

Egypt expressed its sympathy for the "friendly Russian people in this ordeal," while Israel's foreign minister called the events an "an intolerable criminal terror act."

Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi said the world was holding its breath as the siege unfolded. "These are astonishing times, the level of insecurity is very high," he said.

The fact that so many of the victims were children provoked universal condemnation.

"UGLIEST FACES" OF TERRORISM

"Terrorism has shown one of its ugliest faces -- attacking children," said Polish Defense Minister Jerzy Szmajdzinski.

"Canadians are outraged by reports of the barbaric acts of terrorism today in North Ossetia, and by the unbelievable cruelty of hostage-takers firing on fleeing children," said Prime Minister Paul Martin.

U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan (news - web sites) said he was "horrified" to learn that a large number of children and others had lost their lives or were injured.

Greece condemned what it called a "cowardly terrorist action." Spain said there was a "wave of concern" for the victims. Irish Foreign Minister Brian Cowen said his reaction was "horror and sadness."

"It is regrettable that it did not prove possible to bring this crisis to a peaceful end," Cowen added.

Danish Foreign Minister Per Stig Moeller said it was "totally inhumane" to take children as hostages.

"It is unacceptable, incomprehensible, senseless," said U.N. Children's Fund Executive Director Carol Bellamy. "It is time to take stock, to take a long hard look at our world and how it is treating children. If we don't respect the sanctity of childhood, then we have nothing."

[Seshmeister]

Originally posted by JCOOK
Time for Chechnya to have an enema and Putins' gonna give it to them

The Russian government has been giving them an enema for over 10 years now.

That's what caused this.

[Sgt Schultz]

Originally posted by Seshmeister
The Russian government has been giving them an enema for over 10 years now.

That's what caused this.

No, this Russian Government did not take school children hostage and then murder them, the Chechan Muslim Terrorist Cowards did. If the Chechans went about seeking their eventual independence there are many peaceful ways to do it.

[Sgt Schultz]

Originally posted by Seshmeister
The Russian government has been giving them an enema for over 10 years now.

That's what caused this.

Yup, the Ruskies deserved this right?

And remember folks, these are "Chechan Freedom Fighters" - RIGHT!!

At least TEN of the "Chechan Rebels" were Arab, according to Russian officials.

This is Islamofiscism and Al Queda - read on...............

Al Qaeda may have financed Russia school raid-TASS
03 Sep 2004 15:09:39 GMT

Source: Reuters

MOSCOW, Sept 3 (Reuters) - The mass hostage-taking at a Russian school was led by a senior Chechen rebel commander and possibly financed by al Qaeda, Itar-Tass news agency quoted sources in the regional security service as saying.

The sources said that according to early information, Chechen commander Magomet Yevloyev led the seizure of hundreds of children and adults in the school in the province of North Ossetia which ended in bloodshed on Friday.

They said the operation had been planned by Shamil Basayev, Russia's most wanted Chechen rebel, who has been behind several major attacks outside Chechnya.

Russian officials say rebels fighting for the region's independence from Moscow are under strong influence from Wahhabism, a strict form of Sunni Islam. Wahhabism, the only permitted form of Islam in Saudi Arabia, is banned in Russia. "Apart from that, there is information that the hostage seizure was financed by one of the ideologists of Wahhabism, Abu Omar As-Seyf, who is al Qaeda's representative in Chechnya," one source was quoted as saying.

Russian officials have suggested that other recent attacks in Russia, blamed on Chechen separatists, may also have been linked to al Qaeda.

[FORD]

Yeah right.... and I suppose if the BCE would have been around in 1776 (and would have been loyal British subjects) they would have called George Washington and his boys "Al Qaeda" as well.

[Warham]

The BCE was around in 1776.

King George ring a bell?

[Sgt Schultz]

Originally posted by FORD
Yeah right.... and I suppose if the BCE would have been around in 1776 (and would have been loyal British subjects) they would have called George Washington and his boys "Al Qaeda" as well.

Dude, you have no idea what you are talking about equating the war in Chechnya, Chen fighters ties with al Queda and the American Revolution. Particulary the American Revolution. Don't go there, you'll lose.

[FORD]

The point here is that the BCE is trying to lump anyone on the planet who doesn't fit into their agenda with "Al Qaeda", and that's just fucking bullshit.

[Ally_Kat]

Originally posted by franksters
I say long live to FRANCE who just passed a law forbidding any religious sign in there schools and in there government office.

I wish we would do that here.

You want to be here well adapt or find somewhere else to go.

Adapt to what? I'm confused with that.

And you can wish in one hand, shit in the other, and see which one gets filled first.

We CANNOT have the ruling France has because the first amendment

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.


But you still can wish

[Sgt Schultz]

Originally posted by FORD
The point here is that the BCE is trying to lump anyone on the planet who doesn't fit into their agenda with "Al Qaeda", and that's just fucking bullshit.

The Russians are syaing they are linkd to al Queda, not the "BCE."

[Seshmeister]

I cunt believe that's a year ago already.

We're all going to be dead before we know it.

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by Seshmeister
I cunt believe that's a year ago already.

We're all going to be dead before we know it.

That was fucking horrible, all the way around...

Last Updated: Thursday, 1 September 2005, 11:03 GMT 12:03 UK
Press demands Beslan truth

Mourning is mixed with anger in the Russian press as the country marks the first anniversary of the Beslan school siege.

Several commentators are outraged that there is still no clear official explanation of the bloodbath, accusing the authorities of a cover-up and lying.

And one paper says Beslan signified a dramatic setback for democracy, making many Russians believe that it should be sacrificed to order and security.
Oksana Semenova in Novyye Izvestia

The majority of parents who lost their children in the terror attack still cannot come to terms with their loss. It may sound awful but the centre of Beslan's social life is now at the cemetery. It is only there, taking care of the graves, that people come alive somewhat. The drive to the cemetery is the most popular among the local taxi-drivers: the whole town goes there every day... In Beslan they now talk about death like people talk about the weather.

Yekaterina Deyeva in Moskovsky Komsomolets

[Chechen rebel leader] Shamil Basayev gives triumphant interviews, blaming everything on the Russian authorities. Others take bribes and let trucks with terrorists pass. Some worry about the 'stars' on their shoulder straps and cosy posts, and some steal video players from humanitarian aid for Beslan. These are not human beings. All those who remain human are now mourning Beslan, thinking about Beslan and thinking about their own children and their future. One fears for them, very much so.

Ivan Sukhon in Vremya Novostei

Those who survived and recovered from their wounds want the government to give them a clear answer why and how their fellow hostages died, their neighbours and relatives. But even now, a year later, there is still no answer. Beslan residents are not prepared to put up with that. It seems Beslan will remain a real hotspot for the federal authorities for a long time.

Editorial in Izvestia

Contemplating Beslan one cannot help asking oneself why we still do not know the whole truth about that horrendous tragedy. Why did officials, both during the siege and later, tell so many lies, offending the memory of the dead?... Most probably this is all because of fear, fear for someone's popularity. One should not fear though that the truth about the terror attack may undermine one's standing. It will not. It will, however, comfort - albeit slightly - those who lost those close to them at Beslan's School No 1.

Leonid Sedov in Vedomosti

People undoubtedly want to know the truth and Beslan mothers aspire to pressure the president to intervene more actively and positively in the investigation into the tragedy. The point is whether Putin will want to know the truth himself... It is totally clear that the priority of killing the enemy at the cost of the lives of hostages is set at the very top. And, of course, this is exactly what Beslan mothers mean when they name Putin among those responsible for the massacre.

Mikhail Zygar in Kommersant

The opposition has disappeared in Russia as a phenomenon. Not a single opposition party reacted to Beslan. Politicians pretended it did not happen. No independent commission was set up. No intelligible criticism was voiced... Beslan changed Russia not only politically but also psychologically: the Russians' collective mentality embraced the thought that order and democracy cannot co-exist, that these concepts are mutually exclusive, and that the latter should be sacrificed to the former.

BBC Monitoring selects and translates news from radio, television, press, news agencies and the Internet from 150 countries in more than 70 languages. It is based in Caversham, UK, and has several bureaus abroad.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4204246.stm

[Hardrock69]

I can tell you a likely scenario....

Russia was just imitating the United States.

They saw 9/11 happen, they saw the public outrage, and the public call for more "security" at a great cost to our personal freedom.

The 9/11 thing has much evidence that the U.S. Government was somehow involved and is covering it up.

They thought "Hey, let us allow terrorists to commit a horrible crime in our country, we can bring back the Communist State and have total control over everyone again...."

It did not really work though...

[Nickdfresh]

Bump!