muslim...The Racist Canadians' View on BEER

[Seshmeister]

Originally posted by Angel
Nowhere in the Qu'ran is this mentioned, it's an old tribal practice, and in fact Mohammed preached AGAINST this very act.

Of course. When he was fucking his 10 year old 'wife' he always made sure she came first...

[distortion9]

Peaceful Muslims....always hearing about these "peaceful Muslims". Where are they, better yet, where's all the outrage against the non-peaceful Muslims that are perverting Islam?

Instead ya get this...

“The American Muslim community supports efforts to ensure the safety and security of the traveling public,” said CAIR Executive Director Nihad Awad. “We once again urge law enforcement authorities and elected officials to caution against stereotyping entire religious or ethnic groups based on the alleged actions of individuals.”

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?! Did he just say that? LMAO....fuckin good one sir.

Calm the F down Nihad....you don't want to upset your non-peaceful brothers. Way to take a stand. Thank's for the overwhelming support.

[Seshmeister]

1.3 billion Muslims v a thousand nuts.

Get in in proportion.

[Soul Reaper]

Originally posted by franksters
I am so tired of the muslims ... everywhere they are there is trouble..

no it's not the Islam religion.....it's fundamentalism....that's the problem...there are plenty of good Muslims in the world....

Islam has the most religious members in the world....if they were all trouble then we'd probably be dead by now....only a couple of them are nutters....

anyway, if you think Islam is the only religion with nutters, you must be pretty stupid because you get it in every religion.....

fundamentalism exists in Islam, Christianity, Sikhism, Hinduism etc.

[Soul Reaper]

here is an explanation of jihad from an Islam website....

http://www.understanding-islam.com/related/text.asp?type=rarticle&raid=160&sscatid=303

"The Quran began to urge us Muslims to fight for our Justice against those who oppress us. This would involve fighting and bloodshed. The root word of Jihad (JHD) implies more than Holy War. It signifies a physical, moral spiritual and intellectual effort. There are plenty of words in Arabic denoting armed struggle, such as (harb) which means war, (sira'a) which means combat, (ma'araka). which the Qur'an could have used if war was the intended meaning of this struggle. Instead Jihad a richer word which has a range of connotations. The Jihad is not even one of the five pillars of Islam. Jihad is a moral, spiritual struggle to achieve excellence.

Jihad is not also valid without a state. Here are some Scholars on the subject:

"And the third category of collective duties is one in which [the authority of] the State is a [necessary] condition; for example, jihaad and the implementation of the law of punishments in Islam. (fiqhussunnah, assayyidussaabiq; vol.3, page 30)

Writes Ghamidi about the reason for this opinion of Muslim scholars:

The reason for this [condition] is that without political sovereignty jihaad becomes fasaad [disorder, chaos, anarchy, etc]. How is it possible that a group which does not even have the right to award punishment to a criminal should be given the right to wage war? (meezaan, qaanuune da`wat; Urdu; page 35)

An explanation of this reason can be found in Islaahi's da`wate diin or us kaa tariiqe kaar (Urdu; Chapter 14, pages 241 and 242):

The first reason [for this condition] is that God Almighty does not like the dissolution and disintegration of even an evil system until a strong probability exists that those who are out to disintegrate the system will provide people with an alternative and a righteous system. Anarchy and disorder are unnatural conditions. In fact, they are so contrary to human nature that even an unjust system is preferable to them....this confidence [that a group will be able to harmonise a disintegrated system and integrate it into a united whole] can be reposed in such a group only as has actually formed a political government and has such control and discipline within the confines of its authority that the group can be termed as aljamaa`ah [the State, or the government]. Until a group attains this position, it may strive [by religiously allowable means] to become aljamaa`ah -- and that endeavour would be its jihaad for that time -- but it does not have the right to wage an `armed' jihaad.

The second reason is that the import of the power which a group engaged in war gets over the life and property of human beings is so great that sanction to wield this power cannot be given to a group the control of whose leader over his followers is based merely on his spiritual and religious influence on them [rather than being based on legal authority]. When the control of a leader is based merely on his spiritual and religious influence, there is not sufficient guarantee that the leader will be able to stop his followers from fassad fil'ard [creating a situation of disorder, chaos, anarchy on the earth]. Therefore, a religious leader does not have the right to allow his followers to take out their swords [that is to wage an armed struggle] merely on the basis of his spiritual influence over them, for once the sword is unsheathed there is great danger that it will not care for right and wrong and that those who drew it will end up doing all [the wrong which] they had sought to end. Such radical groups as desire revolution and the object of whom is nothing more than disruption of the existing system and deposition of the ruling party to seize power for themselves play such games -- and they can, for in their eyes disruption of a system is no calamity, nor is cruelty of any kind an evil. Everything is right to them [ as long as it serves their purpose]. However, the leaders of a just and righteous party must see whether they are in a position to provide people with a system better than the one they seek to change and whether they will be able to stop their followers from doing such wrong as they themselves had sought to root out. If they are not in that position, then they do not have the right to play games with the life and property of people on the basis of their confidence in mere chances and to create greater disorder than the one they had sought to end."

[franksters]

All I say Is to ''LIVE AND LET LIVE''

I don't Go in their ''CUNT-RY'' and try to change their ways, all I say is that if they want to live like true musulman, they shoudn't move here in the first place...

THEY HAVE MANY CUNT_RIES to choose from... go there and stay there...

Like you say it's only a couple nutters, but meanwhile this ''couple''
are starting to take too much space on this planet.

now they are starting to affect MY freedom because of their stupidity, and don't kid yourself : the ''GOOD muslim'' celebrate in silence...

[Soul Reaper]

Originally posted by franksters
All I say Is to ''LIVE AND LET LIVE''

I don't Go in their ''CUNT-RY'' and try to change their ways, all I say is that if they want to live like true musulman, they shoudn't move here in the first place...

THEY HAVE MANY CUNT_RIES to choose from... go there and stay there...

Like you say it's only a couple nutters, but meanwhile this ''couple''
are starting to take too much space on this planet.

now they are starting to affect MY freedom because of their stupidity, and don't kid yourself : the ''GOOD muslim'' celebrate in silence...

they get into the UK because we don't have any immigrant laws....

if you want to stop muslims coming into the country then stronger immigrant laws need to be enforced....

[franksters]

OK they can come in, but if they do they need to adapt...

Just like if me and my wife travel to the middle east we will adapt..or else she might get killed actually both of us!

don't forget ''the ''good muslim'' celebrate in silence..

[Angel]

Originally posted by franksters
Are you sayin it is not being done as we speak?

it is extreme but it's also perform in canada as well...

It's done alright, but it has nothing to do with Islam.

[Angel]

Originally posted by blonddgirl777
So...
The Muslims are O.K. but what goes on here... outside your country is annoying?

How does OUR bilinguism (our culture) annoys YOU?
(Besides my spelling mistakes)...

Bilingualism... REALLY? Show me a fucking English sign in Quebec, and I'll call the "language police" myself. If this is a truly bilingual nation, then fucking put signs up that this 9th generation Canadian can fucking read!

[blonddgirl777]

Originally posted by Angel
Bilingualism... REALLY? Show me a fucking English sign in Quebec, and I'll call the "language police" myself. If this is a truly bilingual nation, then fucking put signs up that this 9th generation Canadian can fucking read!

Really Angel,

Stay where you are... THERE you don't need to speak anythingelse than English, you don't have to deal with small terrorists threats on an EVERYDAY basis and you can breath you fresh unpolluted air... all that, without a fear... like I said in the other thread... FOR NOW.

[blonddgirl777]

Worring about English signs in Québec...
How 1960's!

There are new (much more important) problems to solve here now... wake up!

[Satan]

If a citizen of Hell may interject in this inter-Canadian debate.....

It seems reasonable that, if the English speaking provinces of Canada have accomodated their French speaking citizens with bilingual signs, then Quebec should do the same for the benefit of their English speaking fellow Canadians.

Is the bilingual policy voluntary in Canada, or are the two official languages mandated by law? If that's the case, I don't know how Quebec could get away with NOT having anything written in English.

[franksters]

Satan,

The law in quebec is extremely clear on that subject...

Any business or sign as to be written in French and English, the english sign as to be at least 50 % of the french one in size...

The only way to not follow this law is if your business is a trademark ( like starbuck for exemple) than you don't need to translate it.

Altough we in quebec have a law to re-enforce the fact that you need to display french and english translation, there is no such thing in the rest of canada... the language police is only here in quebec...

one of the reason quebec made a law like this is simply because everything was in english... the problem was that most people here are french.

the law also goes beyond signage, it reaches into the workplace, for example your boss as to be able to provide you with french software, french benefit package, french training manual and so fourth...if you want it in french.

hospitals, schools, govn. building, everything is in french first, and you can get all those in english as well, but not in the rest of canada...

hope that helps.

[blonddgirl777]

Originally posted by franksters
... the problem was that most people here are french....

And THAT is only a problem for the ignorant unilinguists like the Anglo-Canadians out west...