Who Do You Think Will Win..and By How Much

[FORD]

Originally posted by YEAHIMROTH!
YEAH! DAVID LEE ROTH IS WASHED UP! YEAH!

Three people are washed up, sheep.

1) Sammy Hagar
2) George Bush
3) Yourself

Only one of those 3 is relevant to THIS forum. Please keep that in mind, thank you.

[DrMaddVibe]

Ford...a mind is a terrible thing to waste.

I'll "loan" you some to get you over the hump though!

[Warham]

Bush will win by 5% points.

[FORD]

I'd seriously like to know how you Busheep really believe Junior can legitimately win.

Remember that he LOST last time.

Since then, he's pissed off several core Republican constituencies, from Fiscal Conservatives, to "Big Government haters", to Buchanan/Barr type non-interventionists who have called him out on Iraq and the PNAC agenda, to the more rabid of the religious reich who don't think he's done enough to oppress homosexuals, even to some of his corporate boosters who know that 4 more years of a BCE economy will even hurt them, and yes, even the military who are understandably feeling betrayed by a Commander in Thief who won't keep his word on when a contracted committment ends.

Now I'm not going to say that every member of every one of those constituencies is going to defect, but for someone who is already behind by a half million votes anyway (based on 2000) he obviously has NONE to spare from his own side.

Add in the wayward "Democrats" who in a momentary lapse of judgment voted Junior over Gore. They won't be making that mistake again (except for Zell Miller and Ed Krotch and who gives a fuck what they think).

Add the majority of the Nader voters from 2000, who still aren't happy with the DLC direction of the Democratic party (who is?) but will vote to remove Junior and the BCE, knowing that things can only get worse.

Add voters who either went with other minor parties or sat out in 2000. They may not all show up, but even a small percentage of them is enough to make a difference.

Simple mathematics. There is no way that Junior can win a legitimate election. Fuck the polls, stick with a calculator.

[Guitar Shark]

Originally posted by FORD
I'd seriously like to know how you Busheep really believe Junior can legitimately win.

Remember that he LOST last time.

Damn, I was seriously hoping you'd have given up this argument by now.

[FORD]

Originally posted by Guitar Shark
Damn, I was seriously hoping you'd have given up this argument by now.

Give up what? Numbers don't lie......

[ODShowtime]

Originally posted by ELVIS
No they won't...

Only real men and women with integrity admit when they are wrong...

Elvis, do you understand how ironic that sounds coming from a bush supporter?

[Warham]

1. You libs need to learn how the electoral college works.

2. Al Gore had Bill Clinton's 'feel-good' administration effect his candidacy. Since all those soccer moms loved Clinton because he was so charismatic, they probably voted for Gore. Kerry is not charismatic. In fact, he's anti-charismatic.

3. You libs need to realize that fraud can occur on both sides in an election. Kennedy won in 1960 due to voter tampering in Chicago, Bush won in Florida despite the fact that Democrats had registered in both New York and Florida, and that CBS and other liberal-leaning networks had called the state for Gore BEFORE the fucking polls closed, causing voters in the Republican-heavy panhandle to be disenfranchised.

[Guitar Shark]

Originally posted by FORD
Give up what? Numbers don't lie......

No, numbers don't lie, but you do. Repeatedly.

Bush lost the popular vote, but he won the electoral vote, which is the only thing that matters under the law.

Admit that, and you'll earn back some of the respect I once had for you.

[ODShowtime]

Originally posted by FORD
I'd seriously like to know how you Busheep really believe Junior can legitimately win.

Remember that he LOST last time.

Since then, he's pissed off several core Republican constituencies, from Fiscal Conservatives, to "Big Government haters", to Buchanan/Barr type non-interventionists who have called him out on Iraq and the PNAC agenda, to the more rabid of the religious reich who don't think he's done enough to oppress homosexuals, even to some of his corporate boosters who know that 4 more years of a BCE economy will even hurt them, and yes, even the military who are understandably feeling betrayed by a Commander in Thief who won't keep his word on when a contracted committment ends.

Now I'm not going to say that every member of every one of those constituencies is going to defect, but for someone who is already behind by a half million votes anyway (based on 2000) he obviously has NONE to spare from his own side.

Add in the wayward "Democrats" who in a momentary lapse of judgment voted Junior over Gore. They won't be making that mistake again (except for Zell Miller and Ed Krotch and who gives a fuck what they think).

Add the majority of the Nader voters from 2000, who still aren't happy with the DLC direction of the Democratic party (who is?) but will vote to remove Junior and the BCE, knowing that things can only get worse.

Add voters who either went with other minor parties or sat out in 2000. They may not all show up, but even a small percentage of them is enough to make a difference.

Simple mathematics. There is no way that Junior can win a legitimate election. Fuck the polls, stick with a calculator.

Don't forget the millions of people who never voted before and are not being polled at all...

[FORD]

Originally posted by Guitar Shark
No, numbers don't lie, but you do. Repeatedly.

Bush lost the popular vote, but he won the electoral vote, which is the only thing that matters under the law.

Admit that, and you'll earn back some of the respect I once had for you.

Sorry, the only vote Junior actually "won" is a 5-4 split of the Supreme Court. And even that was rigged.

The electoral vote was not legitmate in Florida because the Katherine Harris "certification" was not a complete vote count, which she, as BCE campaign chair knew very well - and was very well rewarded for, with a congressional seat, no less.

And one thing nobody can call me is a liar.

[DrMaddVibe]

LIAR!

[Guitar Shark]

Originally posted by FORD
And one thing nobody can call me is a liar.

"Liar" may be too strong of a word in this case. "Hopelessly deluded" works, however.

[FORD]

There's no delusion at all in saying that Junior "won" a 5-4 vote of the Supreme Court. The fair thing to do would be to have eliminated Florida entirely from the electoral count if the ballots could not be counted in time.

[Warham]

That's disenfranchising Florida though, FORD. We can't do that. There's 50 states in the Union, not 49...and counting.