Last Night's Kerry Eggos..

[ODShowtime]

Yep, I think you two both understand. Fuck the facts. The president's word should always be taken as truth because he has the best interests of the American people in mind at all times. History has proven that time and time again.

[ELVIS]

I noticed now that you mentioned it...

I think you were encouraging him or them more than I was by responding everytime they try to push your buttons...

I hear you though...

[McCarrens]

OD, what you said makes no sense.

We are safer under Bush. Safer than we were under Clinton, the first Bush and Reagan. He has had only had one terrorist attack. Yet Clinton (and though it pains me to say it) and Bush and Reagan had many.

And when has history shown that the president does not have the best interests of the American people at heart? I can't think of one, be it the more "modern" presidents, or through the complete run of Commanders-in-Chief.

[ODShowtime]

Originally posted by McCarrens
OD, what you said makes no sense.

We are safer under Bush. Safer than we were under Clinton,

There are no reliable facts to back up your position but I hope you don't get proved wrong soon.

[Warham]

How many attacks have been on American soil since 9/11?

Have we been safer?

Would you have thought that not ONE attack would have happened in three years?

I think we are safer, indeed.

[ELVIS]

Well, It was eight years from the first WTC attack in '93 to 9/11...

[FORD]

Excellent point, Elvis.

These guys always take time off between a major offensive. The BCE being in power has nothing to do with that

[ODShowtime]

Originally posted by FORD
Excellent point, Elvis.

These guys always take time off between a major offensive. The BCE being in power has nothing to do with that

You can make much more fear if you spread out the terror and only bust out the big guns for special occasions. Attacks in the US especially are costly and risky. 100s of attacks in Turkey, India, and Iraq are worth one big one in the US.

It's like music, you have peaks and valleys. If it was all peaks, there would be no peaks.

Stating that there have been no major terror attacks in the US since 9-11 proves nothing. Now if any big fish were caught or plots broken up, maybe, but having Ashcroft bust out Jose Padilla just to show he's making progress doesn't constitute actual success in the real world.

[Big Train]

Originally posted by FORD
Excellent point, Elvis.

These guys always take time off between a major offensive. The BCE being in power has nothing to do with that

Ford, which Ford am I supposed to believe? The Ford that says the BCE crashed the planes into the towers on 9/11 or the Ford who says the above statement?

Learning from Mr. Kerry?

[FORD]

Originally posted by Big Train
Ford, which Ford am I supposed to believe? The Ford that says the BCE crashed the planes into the towers on 9/11 or the Ford who says the above statement?

Learning from Mr. Kerry?

No, I believe completely that the BCE was the creators of Al Qaeda. That's not even up for discusssion, it's a fact. Whether they knew they would turn on the US or not - or were ordered to do so - is the only disputable part. In any case, it was 8 years between WTC 1 and WTC 2 - even though the name Al Qaeda was not mentioned in 1993 at all, that I can recall, nor Bin Laden individually. In fact that operation was said to be masterminded by a blind sheik who wore a Santa Claus hat and lived in NYC at the time (sorry, it's been 11 years and I forgot this guy's name).

So since I can't prove that the BCE is directly controlling Al Qaeda, I'll assume that the terra-ists are operating on their own timetable, which means Junior claiming "NO ATTACKS SINCE 9-11!! AIN'T I COOL!!" is incredibly stupid and irresponsible.

[Big Train]

If you can't prove it and there are no links proving BCE control over Al-Qaeda, why would you make the connection to begin with between them?

And no, I am not disputing the initial funding for them against the Soviets.

As long as nothing is happening, the man can claim it, they way all presidents (including clinton) can claim it.

[BigBadBrian]

Originally posted by FORD
No, I believe completely that the BCE was the creators of Al Qaeda. That's not even up for discusssion, it's a fact. Whether they knew they would turn on the US or not - or were ordered to do so - is the only disputable part.

Did your mother have any "normal" children?

[Warham]

I don't know which guy has spin more today...Edwards in tonight's debate, or FORD in this thread.

[Lqskdiver]

Originally posted by FORD
No, I believe completely that the BCE was the creators of Al Qaeda. That's not even up for discusssion, it's a fact.

Beliefs and facts are distinguishable contrasts.



So since I can't prove that the BCE is directly controlling Al Qaeda,

Nuff said.

[FORD]

It comes down to this question..... Is Al Qaeda still an active agency of the Bush Criminal Empire, or are they the Frankenstein's Monster that went out of control?

A case could be made either way.

And you could ask the same questions of Israel's Mossad and their little experiment called "Hamas".