Your ideal rig ... partII

[The Scatologist]

Here's what my Idea Rig will be


Bogner Ecstacy head going through slanted Mesa Boogie speakers

Gibson 59 burst


a Custom Kramer style guitar, made with a Pacer body, OFR, Seymour Duncan Antiquity PAF replica, a neck from Warmoth which would be a Kramer Baretta style neck with a maple fretboard, and wolfgang radius.
It would also have a buzz feiten installed on both guitars.

Fulltone Full Drive 2

Crybaby Wah (modified so you can just make it get stuck half way then walk away)


Um that would be about it. DAMN I want that rig!

[GAR]

Originally posted by Nitro Express
Ed said ... it must have colored the sound the way he liked because he used variacs where sound reduction wasn't really neccessary.

What Ed says in print versus what he actually did became a game of truth-or-dare to other guitarists reading it.

He did use a variac which can be seen on the stage in some pics, but it was dialed to a point that balanced the outputs bias at the input voltage point that sounded best to him; then that "source head" output was fed to a resistance load (the "dynamite sticks" of Ohmite ceramic resistors) then distributed to slave heads and/or (or both) an 800 watt solid-state power amp as backup to feed all those hungry cabs.

That's an old-school tubejockey way of getting a line-level out to multiple heads. Ed probably has two or three heads as possible source and source-tone backup heads, with enough solid-state power amp wattage like a QSC to distribute straight kilowatt voltage to the cabs based on what the source heads dose out.

[Eyes of the Night]

Originally posted by Hardrock69
I am getting in on this thread kinda late, but I already have most of my ideal rig:

1979 Marshall 100W Super Lead Model #2203
Carvin 4 X 12 Slant Cab with 4 70w Celestions (I want a stack of Marshall cabs with 30w Celestions someday)
1988 Gibson FLying V with EMG pickup
Original TS-9 Tube Screamer

Holy fucking RIG batman! ... Niice indeed ... vintage my bre vintage ... I like ... monster tone I bet ...

[Hardrock69]

Yeah, but I have never played my head through a real Marshall cab....the Carvin sounds ok with the 70w Celestions, but because they are 70-watt speakers, there is none of that Celestion breakup.

I saw a used Marshall cab at Broadway Music here in Gnashville for 325 bucks. It needs a grill cloth, is kinda beat up, and it has 3 25 watt Celestions and 1 65-watt Celestion. Here is a picture:



Thing is, it is a consignment deal, so no layaway, and I do not have 325 bucks to spare. I would rather have something not quite so torn up also.

One of these days.

My rig sounds great by itself....it has a first-stage gain boost, and is running EL34 Groove Tubes, though I am going to change out my tubes later this year to Svetlana, and another brand whose name escapes me at the moment. When using the Tube Sremaer it REALLY rocks!

I have a bro in Bakersfield who has done some work on his Marshalls, and is quite the genius guy....he swears by Svetlana, and I trust his advice implicitly.

Right now on the last 3 songs I have recorded on my Roland, I have just plugged directly into the VS-1680 and am using their Soldano amp simulator. Sounds great! I am picky about my guitar sound, and the advantage of doing this is that it sounds exactly the same every time, whereas just miking an amp, you can have slight differences in tone depending on the line voltage, humidity and temperature, and of course mic placement is a huge factor as well.
I live way out in the stix, so I feel my line voltage is probably not as stable as it would be closer in to town, but oh well.

Very soon I will record some guitar tracks using my rig, and will post some samples.

[houseofpain]

My ideal rig:
Les Paul "Black Beauty" Custom
Marshall Cab loaded with Celestion Greenbacks
Soldano SLO Head
Boss CE-5 Chorus
MXR Phase 90
Boss Flanger
MXR Wylde Overdrive
Boss EQ

I'd also love to have for tinkering around the house:
Fender Hot Rod Deluxe (with the 4 10s)
a Double Muff distortion pedal
a strat that I thought sounded like it was worth a crap.
and a couple of more Jacksons (gotta be V's)

[ashstralia]

Originally posted by Nitro Express
I'm sure if they had hotplates available in the day, Ed would have used one of those instead of the variac.

perhaps partly ed's tone was so
fat was cause he wasn't constantly
slammin his output stage with max voltage?

just a thought, cause in my experience
powersoak type devices are very tough
on output circuits.

[Coyote]

If I get a job for the summer I'll swap this Marshall MG head for something else. (hopefully)

Cab-wise, I'm gonna stick to this Behringer

But, first on the agenda is the "new pickups for the Tokai"-project.


Ah, but I digress, Ideal rig?
Somethin' like this:
Marshall JCM900 SL-X
Powerbreak/Hot Plate
A cab (other than Marshall)
Phase 90
Flanger
Delay
Chorus
Dyna Comp
7-band graphic EQ
(maybe) Cry Baby

(maybe a Cry Baby)

[Hardrock69]

Wow...went and jammed the other night with some friends....believe it or not it was the first time I ever played through my halfstack with a live band....had that motherfucker set at 5.....

SWEEEEEET!!!!



My ears are still ringing....stoopid me, did not wear earplugs.

I should know better, I have Tinnitus....


Had fun tho!

[kentuckyklira]

Originally posted by ThrillsNSpills
Try a Tech 21 into a marshall sometime.
You can get controlled feedback at low volumes if you work the dials right.
There's many fine tones to be had, but I'm more of a technique junkie myself.
If you like grunge, that might work for you.
The guitar looks good.
later

Get a Fernandes guitar with a sustainer and you´ll have all the controlled feedback you´ll ever need!

Plus, you don´t have to fuck up your rig with any amp modeller crap!

[kentuckyklira]

OK,

I´m extremely happy with my rig.

One of my 50+ guitars

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Roland GP16 19" multieffect

->

ART Multiverb Alpha 2.0 19" multieffect

->

Alesis Quadraverb GT 19" multieffect

->

2 or 4 (depending on size of stage) 1971 Marshall 100w heads (3 originals, 1 reissue)

->

4 or 8 Marshall 4x12 cabs (size of stage)

[Nitro Express]

So Eddie built his own hot plate in the early days using large resistors? I know later on when Custom Audio Electronics put his rig together they were using a Palmer Speaker Simular and running the line level from that to an H&H mosfet power amp.

As far as speaker cabs go, I like the good old Marshall 1960B cab. It just gets a better sound than the Peavey 5150 cab, or the Carvin cab. They are more expensive but worth the extra money. I think ripped cabs look cool. LOL! You only need one anyways. If you need two, it's time to plug into the PA system.

[Hardrock69]

Hmmmm I might make a phone call about that cab....I can always replace the grille cloth...and that is right in my price range....

Meybe I can worksa deal with Legba....you him????

[Panamark]

So Simple for me,

A good guitar with quaility humbuckers and an old school Marshall
Head and CAB.

Therein endeth the lesson.

[ashstralia]

Originally posted by Nitro Express
So Eddie built his own hot plate in the early days using large resistors?

big difference is, with a powersoak
you'd have your master vol at 11.

this runs your amp hard and hot,
and kills output tubes.

a variac type device reduces the
voltage produced at the output.

he! i just plug my toneworks ax1000
straight into the p.a.

every guitar sound you've ever heard,
in a neat package.

[Panamark]

Ash, I dont really know what style you play, but dont you find the
AMP modelling feels "closed". When you are trying to hit pinched harmonics and use the feedback of the amp, theres just not that
same feel there...