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  • MERRYKISSMASS2U
    Full Member Status

    • Mar 2004
    • 4372

    #16
    I got really lucky when I found my Soloist (around $2300 retail) for $1200 new in a shop.

    Never again


    You really can't improve on it.

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    • nobodys home
      Roth Army Recruit
      • Jun 2006
      • 11

      #17
      Originally posted by MERRYKISSMASS2U
      nobody[']s home:

      Thanks for the advice. I'll check it out.

      I don't know if I am going to do this project right away.... I did just get a freakin' jackson soloist!

      The kits are great there, but I really want it EXACTLY as I envision it. Purple body, gold hardware, gold pearloid pickguard, purple pickups.

      you can get the kits with gold hardware and pearloid pickguards and such. you could always just order one from them. here are examples of their bolt guitars which is what the kit guitars are :

      Since 1946 Carvin has been designing professional audio systems, guitar amplifiers, bass amplifiers and wireless systems. Kiesel Family owned and operated.





      or a high end bolt



      they also make the bolts in purple as well
      Last edited by nobodys home; 07-29-2007, 06:39 PM.
      No man is an Iland, intire of it selfe;every manis a peece of the Continent,part of the maine; if a clod bee washed away by the Sea,Europe is the lesse, as well as if a Promontorie were, as well as if a Mannor of thy friends or of thine owne were; any mans death diminishes me, because I am involved in Mankinde ;And therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls;It tolls for thee. John Donne

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      • jhale667
        DIAMOND STATUS
        • Aug 2004
        • 20929

        #18
        That still looks like a wannabe Strat...
        Originally posted by conmee
        If anyone even thinks about deleting the Muff Thread they are banned.... no questions asked.

        That is all.

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        Originally posted by GO-SPURS-GO
        I've seen prominent hypocrite liberal on this site Jhale667


        Originally posted by Isaac R.
        Then it's really true??

        The Muff Thread is really just GONE ???

        OMFG...who in their right mind...???
        Originally posted by eddie78
        I was wrong about you, brother. You're good.

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        • nobodys home
          Roth Army Recruit
          • Jun 2006
          • 11

          #19
          Originally posted by jhale667
          That still looks like a wannabe Strat...
          yet the quality is better then a fender. how much would a fender with a quilted maple top cost? that would have to be a custom shop from them where as everything from carvin is custom. a lot of people use their stuff:

          Since 1946 Carvin has been designing professional audio systems, guitar amplifiers, bass amplifiers and wireless systems. Kiesel Family owned and operated.


          but to each his own i guess.
          No man is an Iland, intire of it selfe;every manis a peece of the Continent,part of the maine; if a clod bee washed away by the Sea,Europe is the lesse, as well as if a Promontorie were, as well as if a Mannor of thy friends or of thine owne were; any mans death diminishes me, because I am involved in Mankinde ;And therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls;It tolls for thee. John Donne

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          • jhale667
            DIAMOND STATUS
            • Aug 2004
            • 20929

            #20
            Still, he stated he wanted to make a STRAT, not some goofy-looking parody of one.

            Whereas if he went with Warmoth or Musikraft, the parts ARE higher quality than Fender, but LOOK identical because they are licensed replacement parts manufacturers.
            Pay attention.
            Originally posted by conmee
            If anyone even thinks about deleting the Muff Thread they are banned.... no questions asked.

            That is all.

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            Originally posted by GO-SPURS-GO
            I've seen prominent hypocrite liberal on this site Jhale667


            Originally posted by Isaac R.
            Then it's really true??

            The Muff Thread is really just GONE ???

            OMFG...who in their right mind...???
            Originally posted by eddie78
            I was wrong about you, brother. You're good.

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            • nobodys home
              Roth Army Recruit
              • Jun 2006
              • 11

              #21
              Originally posted by jhale667
              Still, he stated he wanted to make a STRAT, not some goofy-looking parody of one.

              Whereas if he went with Warmoth or Musikraft, the parts ARE higher quality than Fender, but LOOK identical because they are licensed replacement parts manufacturers.
              Pay attention.
              fender can licensed what ever they want that doesn't mean anything. still if all that matters to someone is a label then good ahead and use warmoth or whatever but when it comes to sound i'll go with carvin 10 out of 10
              No man is an Iland, intire of it selfe;every manis a peece of the Continent,part of the maine; if a clod bee washed away by the Sea,Europe is the lesse, as well as if a Promontorie were, as well as if a Mannor of thy friends or of thine owne were; any mans death diminishes me, because I am involved in Mankinde ;And therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls;It tolls for thee. John Donne

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              • MERRYKISSMASS2U
                Full Member Status

                • Mar 2004
                • 4372

                #22
                Originally posted by nobodys home
                i'll go with carvin 10 out of 10
                Where do you work?


                :D

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                • jhale667
                  DIAMOND STATUS
                  • Aug 2004
                  • 20929

                  #23
                  Originally posted by nobodys home
                  fender can licensed what ever they want that doesn't mean anything. still if all that matters to someone is a label then good ahead and use warmoth or whatever but when it comes to sound i'll go with carvin 10 out of 10
                  Now you're just being a complete moron.
                  Originally posted by conmee
                  If anyone even thinks about deleting the Muff Thread they are banned.... no questions asked.

                  That is all.

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                  Originally posted by GO-SPURS-GO
                  I've seen prominent hypocrite liberal on this site Jhale667


                  Originally posted by Isaac R.
                  Then it's really true??

                  The Muff Thread is really just GONE ???

                  OMFG...who in their right mind...???
                  Originally posted by eddie78
                  I was wrong about you, brother. You're good.

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                  • nobodys home
                    Roth Army Recruit
                    • Jun 2006
                    • 11

                    #24
                    Originally posted by jhale667
                    Now you're just being a complete moron.

                    call me what you want but before you talk about things you should know what you're talking about. warmoth isn't licensed or affiliated with fender




                    Copyright© 2006 Warmoth Guitar Products Inc. All Rights Reserved Warmoth Guitar Products Inc.

                    STRAT® , TELE® , P. BASS® , and J. BASS® are registered trademarks of Fender Musical Instruments Corp. (FMIC).

                    Warmoth Guitar Products, Inc. is not affiliated with, nor do we obtain any components from FMIC.
                    No man is an Iland, intire of it selfe;every manis a peece of the Continent,part of the maine; if a clod bee washed away by the Sea,Europe is the lesse, as well as if a Promontorie were, as well as if a Mannor of thy friends or of thine owne were; any mans death diminishes me, because I am involved in Mankinde ;And therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls;It tolls for thee. John Donne

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                    • jhale667
                      DIAMOND STATUS
                      • Aug 2004
                      • 20929

                      #25
                      Originally posted by nobodys home
                      call me what you want but before you talk about things you should know what you're talking about. warmoth isn't licensed or affiliated with fender




                      Copyright© 2006 Warmoth Guitar Products Inc. All Rights Reserved Warmoth Guitar Products Inc.

                      STRAT® , TELE® , P. BASS® , and J. BASS® are registered trademarks of Fender Musical Instruments Corp. (FMIC).

                      Warmoth Guitar Products, Inc. is not affiliated with, nor do we obtain any components from FMIC.
                      Look Toolio,
                      If they're not a licensed parts manufacturer, why do all the parts I own have "LICENSED BY FENDER' stamped on them, you idiot? Posting their disclaimer doesn't disprove my point.
                      Nice try, but obviously you don't understand the CONCEPT of a 'Fender-LICENSED' product.
                      So let me spell it out for you:
                      Both Warmoth AND Musikraft have the clearance to make parts using the correct contours and headstock designs, UNLIKE CARVIN. So shut the fuck up already, and quit trying to argue...I've been building guitars for over twenty years, so YEAH I know what the fuck I'm talking about, unlike YOU. Ever had conversations with the guys at the Fender custom shop? I have. They are fully aware of Warmoth, and actually complimented me on one of my Warmoth builds.
                      Can you say the same about one of your little Carvin wannabes? Didn't think so....
                      Originally posted by conmee
                      If anyone even thinks about deleting the Muff Thread they are banned.... no questions asked.

                      That is all.

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                      Originally posted by GO-SPURS-GO
                      I've seen prominent hypocrite liberal on this site Jhale667


                      Originally posted by Isaac R.
                      Then it's really true??

                      The Muff Thread is really just GONE ???

                      OMFG...who in their right mind...???
                      Originally posted by eddie78
                      I was wrong about you, brother. You're good.

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                      • nobodys home
                        Roth Army Recruit
                        • Jun 2006
                        • 11

                        #26
                        Everyone is aware or warmoth and everyone is aware of carvin putting parts you bought together doesn't equal building a guitar that's just assembling it. Building a guitar is when you take the raw wood,cut,joint,plane,cut, carve,rout etc which is what I've done and have been complemented on my work. licensed doesn't mean anything about quality. fender licenses everythingand carvin quality is far better then anything those "licensed" companies ever produced. But if we applied your rules here everything made with "licensed" parts could be called a strat or if it was made with gibson "licensed" parts be called Les Paul but no one would ever call them a strat or les paul unless they were made by fender or gibson proper. The word "strat" refers to the shape or a guitar not it's maker other wise what would this guitar be called?:
                        like i said if you're stuck on what something is labeled go ahead and use it but in terms of quality carvin makes warmoth look like a joke.
                        No man is an Iland, intire of it selfe;every manis a peece of the Continent,part of the maine; if a clod bee washed away by the Sea,Europe is the lesse, as well as if a Promontorie were, as well as if a Mannor of thy friends or of thine owne were; any mans death diminishes me, because I am involved in Mankinde ;And therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls;It tolls for thee. John Donne

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                        • nobodys home
                          Roth Army Recruit
                          • Jun 2006
                          • 11

                          #27
                          Everyone is aware or warmoth and everyone is aware of carvin putting parts you bought together doesn't equal building a guitar that's just assembling it. Building a guitar is when you take the raw wood,cut,joint,plane,cut, carve,rout etc which is what I've done and have been complemented on my work. licensed doesn't mean anything about quality. fender licenses everything and carvin quality is far better then anything those "licensed" companies ever produced. But if we applied your rules here everything made with fender "licensed" parts could be called a strat or if it was made with gibson "licensed" parts be called Les Paul but no one would ever call them a real "strat" or "les paul" unless they were made by fender or gibson proper would they? The word "strat" refers to the shape or a guitar not it's maker other wise what would this guitar be called?:
                          which brings us back to the point of "strat" building advice unless your using fender parts with the name fender on the head stock followed by statocaster you really can't call it a "strat" licensed parts or not. everything else is a "strat"shaped guitar. like i said if you're stuck on what something is labeled go ahead and use it but in terms of quality carvin makes warmoth look like a joke.
                          No man is an Iland, intire of it selfe;every manis a peece of the Continent,part of the maine; if a clod bee washed away by the Sea,Europe is the lesse, as well as if a Promontorie were, as well as if a Mannor of thy friends or of thine owne were; any mans death diminishes me, because I am involved in Mankinde ;And therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls;It tolls for thee. John Donne

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                          • jhale667
                            DIAMOND STATUS
                            • Aug 2004
                            • 20929

                            #28
                            Originally posted by nobodys home
                            .....but in terms of quality carvin makes warmoth look like a joke.
                            ABSOLUTELY 100% WRONG. I've compared both (and others), you dolt....Warmoth makes some of the best parts on the market. Better than Allparts, Mighty Mite, and even your precious Carvin....geez you really are thick, aren't you?

                            Also, building DOES refer to assembly...those that fabricate their own parts are referred to as LUTHIERS. And to answer your (double-posted) question: It's a G&L ASAT...and still closer than a Carvin.
                            Last edited by jhale667; 07-30-2007, 09:08 PM.
                            Originally posted by conmee
                            If anyone even thinks about deleting the Muff Thread they are banned.... no questions asked.

                            That is all.

                            Icon.
                            Originally posted by GO-SPURS-GO
                            I've seen prominent hypocrite liberal on this site Jhale667


                            Originally posted by Isaac R.
                            Then it's really true??

                            The Muff Thread is really just GONE ???

                            OMFG...who in their right mind...???
                            Originally posted by eddie78
                            I was wrong about you, brother. You're good.

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                            • jhale667
                              DIAMOND STATUS
                              • Aug 2004
                              • 20929

                              #29
                              But let's break it down even further for our hockey-helmeted newbie friend :D :

                              If MERRY goes with Warmoth or Musikraft, he will end up with a guitar that looks similar to THIS:




                              ...Pretty much indistinguishable from a Fender, but of higher quality wood and workmanship. Correct body contours, headstock shape, etc.
                              If he goes with Carvin, he will have one of those quasi-pseudo strat things YOU keep posting. Which was the point you keep missing anyway.


                              Are we clear now?
                              Originally posted by conmee
                              If anyone even thinks about deleting the Muff Thread they are banned.... no questions asked.

                              That is all.

                              Icon.
                              Originally posted by GO-SPURS-GO
                              I've seen prominent hypocrite liberal on this site Jhale667


                              Originally posted by Isaac R.
                              Then it's really true??

                              The Muff Thread is really just GONE ???

                              OMFG...who in their right mind...???
                              Originally posted by eddie78
                              I was wrong about you, brother. You're good.

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                              • MERRYKISSMASS2U
                                Full Member Status

                                • Mar 2004
                                • 4372

                                #30
                                Bottom line is is that I wanted a REAL strat.

                                I tried to be nice by saying that Carvin had interesting products. Now, I am just going to tell you to shut the fuck up.

                                The King of Muff knows exactly what I am looking for.


                                How the HELL can you say Warmoth isn't Fender licensed, yet the Carvins have some cheap imitation headstock?



                                PUH-LEEZ.

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