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  • GAR
    Banned
    • Jan 2004
    • 10881

    #46
    Originally posted by jhale667
    Clean channel headS plural? Playing the Enormo-dome any time soon?
    Sure why not, two cabs for clean-channel Left, two for Right.

    My rig had one Roland Jazz-Chorus 120H (H=head model, C=Combo model) and I wanted to up it to two so the four clean cabinets with the Altecs had one channel each feeding it with the full 60 watts instead of two cabs sharing that 60 watt channel.

    The Altecs are super, super-sensitive I think the specs were 113 db, so that 60 watts was louder than more than twice the wattage if it were to feed a Celestion cabinet.

    But that's all I got now, all 4 cleans now have 2-75's and 2-Vintage 30s.. replacing my stolen rig of 4 stacks.

    Altecs are impossible to find, 8 of my original Altecs came from Rod Stewart when Jimmy Crespo got fired/quit - those 2 cabinets were painted white - my first experience scraping and redying painted cabs... it's a different world now, way different with the Internet either people are hoarding them; they're all going to Japan for hifi systems, or they're blown and being thrown away instead of reconing.

    Basically clean channel functions for me, in a number of ways and I never really used the distortion channel of the original JC-120H because it's a ratty-sounding distortion clip. Unique and not overbearing, but HARSH.

    I always wanted to get that lush, plushy chorusing/doubling circuit from that amp, but feeding into a much-tighter tube amp like another impoooooosible find, like a pair of the Hiwatt DR-201 200w heads used by Slade.

    So in the Mesa lineup I thought of incorporating two Stiletto heads, or a custom-built quad-head version of the "20-20 Stereo" because I think the chirpy EL84 would really make a statement at 240 watts.

    Which all in all, is really not about the volume, but the headroom, meaning retaining that low-end response.

    Dragging 8 cabs around may sound like a bitch of a task, but it's not like I'd be the one lifting them, and it's not about playing the Enormodome. It's about staging, and a backdrop - I figured THAT one out in 1984 when I saw Michael Schenker at the Country Club showing like 10 or 12 cabs but powering only 4 cabinets.

    Despite the staging aspect, its' also a thought-out scalable instrument. I believe one should consider the amplification an instrument also, and when you think about your backline in a modular balanced instrument you lose nothing when you add components because it's not like "oh, if I need another cab I'll get one".. I'm past that to the point where I could go with one cab powered by 3 amps and still have the same sound as 12 cabs if required.

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    • jhale667
      DIAMOND STATUS
      • Aug 2004
      • 20929

      #47
      Bump.

      Here's a review from the British mag Guitarist I stumbled upon today...





      I like the Strat tones the guy is able to get, but he loses me every time he grabs the PRS....



      Originally posted by conmee
      If anyone even thinks about deleting the Muff Thread they are banned.... no questions asked.

      That is all.

      Icon.
      Originally posted by GO-SPURS-GO
      I've seen prominent hypocrite liberal on this site Jhale667


      Originally posted by Isaac R.
      Then it's really true??

      The Muff Thread is really just GONE ???

      OMFG...who in their right mind...???
      Originally posted by eddie78
      I was wrong about you, brother. You're good.

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      • Seshmeister
        ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

        • Oct 2003
        • 35754

        #48
        I played around with one of these the other week at a pals house.

        The cleaner sounds were great but for that money I would also want an insanely good range of overdriven tones and I'm not convinced.

        I was quite refreshed though but the video above seems to confirm my point.

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        • Seshmeister
          ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

          • Oct 2003
          • 35754

          #49
          Jesus in a wetsuit I just looked up how much these cost over here.

          I knew they were a bit pricey but $3700!!??

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          • jhale667
            DIAMOND STATUS
            • Aug 2004
            • 20929

            #50
            Yeah, they are not cheap....agree the hi gain sounds are not knocking me out from any of the video reviews I've seen thus far...I need to go check one out in person.


            Originally posted by conmee
            If anyone even thinks about deleting the Muff Thread they are banned.... no questions asked.

            That is all.

            Icon.
            Originally posted by GO-SPURS-GO
            I've seen prominent hypocrite liberal on this site Jhale667


            Originally posted by Isaac R.
            Then it's really true??

            The Muff Thread is really just GONE ???

            OMFG...who in their right mind...???
            Originally posted by eddie78
            I was wrong about you, brother. You're good.

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            • Seshmeister
              ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

              • Oct 2003
              • 35754

              #51
              I just can't see how it can be worth more than 250 bottles of decent vodka.

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              • ELVIS
                Banned
                • Dec 2003
                • 44120

                #52
                I agree...

                I've never played through a Boogie or a "Mesa Engineering" head that sounded like anything i'd consider good, much less worthy of the crazy price...

                My sound KILLS that stuff...

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                • jhale667
                  DIAMOND STATUS
                  • Aug 2004
                  • 20929

                  #53
                  Doubtful.

                  Originally posted by ELVIS
                  My sound KILLS that stuff...
                  My Mark III's tone will destroy your puny ADA MP-1 rig any day.


                  Originally posted by conmee
                  If anyone even thinks about deleting the Muff Thread they are banned.... no questions asked.

                  That is all.

                  Icon.
                  Originally posted by GO-SPURS-GO
                  I've seen prominent hypocrite liberal on this site Jhale667


                  Originally posted by Isaac R.
                  Then it's really true??

                  The Muff Thread is really just GONE ???

                  OMFG...who in their right mind...???
                  Originally posted by eddie78
                  I was wrong about you, brother. You're good.

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                  • ELVIS
                    Banned
                    • Dec 2003
                    • 44120

                    #54
                    Maybe to you, but my MP1 is only 25% of my sound...and no way is my rig puny...

                    I can use what I have to make it over 10 tube heads large...

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                    • ELVIS
                      Banned
                      • Dec 2003
                      • 44120

                      #55
                      I've never done that, BTW, but I could...

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                      • Coyote
                        ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                        • Jan 2004
                        • 8185

                        #56
                        Originally posted by ELVIS
                        My sound KILLS that stuff...
                        Originally posted by jhale667
                        My Mark III's tone will destroy your puny ADA MP-1 rig any day.


                        Like a wise martial arts-master, I'll stay out of this...
                        Why settle for something you have, if it's not as good as something you're out to get?

                        Originally posted by Seshmeister
                        It's like putting up a YouTube of Bach and playing Chopstix on your Bontempi...

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                        • jhale667
                          DIAMOND STATUS
                          • Aug 2004
                          • 20929

                          #57
                          Speaking of Martial Arts...

                          Originally posted by Coyote
                          Like a wise martial arts-master, I'll stay out of this...
                          "His Kung Fu may be good, but mine is better."
                          Originally posted by conmee
                          If anyone even thinks about deleting the Muff Thread they are banned.... no questions asked.

                          That is all.

                          Icon.
                          Originally posted by GO-SPURS-GO
                          I've seen prominent hypocrite liberal on this site Jhale667


                          Originally posted by Isaac R.
                          Then it's really true??

                          The Muff Thread is really just GONE ???

                          OMFG...who in their right mind...???
                          Originally posted by eddie78
                          I was wrong about you, brother. You're good.

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                          • Coyote
                            ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 8185

                            #58
                            Originally posted by jhale667
                            "His Kung Fu may be good, but mine is better."
                            ConfuShaft say: "he who steal other man's line, he be an unimaginative motherfucker"...

                            :D
                            Why settle for something you have, if it's not as good as something you're out to get?

                            Originally posted by Seshmeister
                            It's like putting up a YouTube of Bach and playing Chopstix on your Bontempi...

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                            • GAR
                              Banned
                              • Jan 2004
                              • 10881

                              #59
                              Originally posted by Coyote
                              Like a wise martial arts-master, I'll stay out of this...
                              Based on what I know of each's rigs I'd have to weigh in on the obvious point that Jay's distortion channel probably sounds sweeter in the raspy aspect than Elvis, but with less compression.

                              And obviously E's rig has glassier clean channel possibilities, even though Boogies started out as a botique handbuilt parts amp made from Fender transformers.

                              Jay could have his mk3 amp voiced to sound sweeter in the clean range, but he can't have it both ways as that would sacrifice other things going inside which would ruin the whole point of running that amp since it wasn't made to sound decent clean.

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                              • GAR
                                Banned
                                • Jan 2004
                                • 10881

                                #60
                                Originally posted by jhale667
                                "His Kung Fu may be good, but mine is better."
                                - uh, change those G12M-70's out yet, Bruce Lee? 2 weeks ago I bought a Marshall slant for $100 with a niiice set of 75's.

                                4 months ago I got a slant with Vintage 30s for $275, stuck a pair of Carvin 60 watt and a pair of Celestion 80 watters then flipped it for $325.. they must have you working 13 hour days if you can't take the time to focus on your gear to be STILL stuck with the 70s!

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