Premier drums ?

[jhale667]

He can really multi-task when it comes to receiving ownings..

Wow,GARbage is NOW an expert on drums...

I always thought the drummer in this band was cool...

[kwame k]

Yup, me too Jay!

[GAR]

Try Gibraltar......they make decent replacement parts.....http://www.gibraltarhardware.com/pdf/customparts.pdf

The bolt spacing may be different but if you draw a line between old boltholes as a centerline for the new holes, you can plug the old holes with bondo:

Take some masking tape piece to the outer shell.
Mix some bondo, use a razor safety blade or putty knife, and spread from the inside shell filling the hole.
After 10 mins, take the blade and scrape the excess off the inside, and slice off the what oozes from beneath the tape.
Then redrill.

Cool thing you can do before you reassemble, is using RustOleum flat enamel, you can take a mini-paint roller and finish the inside of the shell in white. Like the old keystone badge Ludwig shells.

This is a great trick if you have a kit of mismatched shells to fake conformity.

[kwame k]

Jesus MacGAYver, the dude just needs tension rods..........

[Sucker of Satan's Penis]

Since I know everything: let me fill in here..

- he ain't gonna find any. He says they're standard thread but what standard: metric?

If so he shall partake of your Yamaha lugs by force for your Unbelief. However, the Premiers are longer so that won't work.

I don't think. Actually, I don't even exist let alone think. But if he can't find none, new hardware will be the case.

Selah.

[kwame k]

STFU Gar

[Sucker of Satan's Penis]

Infidel.

[jhale667]

Nice GHEYLias

STFU, GAyR...

[GAR]

There's a 7-piece set of Fullerton-era Rogers shells with hardware n the OC Craigslist, $500 bucks. I couldn't believe it!

rogers big R drums 70's 7 pieces



Badass kit to have around, just for jam or recording kit.

Looks like: 24x18 kick, 16x16 and 18x18 floors toms, and a 12/13/14 set of rack toms.

I saw that and was thinking of this thread, for the same reason that unfortunately when one lug goes, you're fucked because of proprietery dimensions.

For those who don't know, Rogers developed this ball-swivel mounting system allowing complete positioning freedom but unfortunately, that ball inside or the jaws that clamp on it goes dull and you're done. They don't make that hardware anymore.

Lovely tone, but because of this proprietary hardware you'd have to have lots of free time on your hands to make it worthwhile or a generous tech at the drum shop willing to help you out refitting to something modern like .. I dunno, Pearl? Something good besides shit Taiwanese Gibraltar mounts.

[kwame k]

wrong as usual, Clay.......getting something right would be a first for you.

[Nitro Express]

Jesus MacGAYver, the dude just needs tension rods..........

LOL! Yeah. First go find a large maple tree. Cut it down and age the cure the wood a few years. Then go find a big radial saw and cut the trunk into thin slabs. Then glue the slabs together alternating the grain until it's almost 1/4 inch thick. Then heat the lamination with hot steam and bend it around a round form. Cut the excess to length and once you have your drum shells.......

[kwame k]

Don't forget to die-cast the hardware, too

[GAR]

Have either of you guys shared your particular problems before regarding the proprietary nature of shell rods and lugs?

Kwappy you're supposed to be a drummer. Guys like you get a problem, they just get rid of the whole kit and get a new one, so we don't really need your negative analytics.

Let's focus on the problem at hand, and not the little problem in your own little hand.

[Nitro Express]

Now you have me thinking about uses for old drum kits. Roll the pieces down a steep San Franciso hill trying to hit people below. That would be fun or maybe setting them on fire with petrolium and rolling them. Or smashing a big enough drum over someone's head and seeing if you can trap their arms and torso inside of it and them run off with them chasing you wearing a tight fitting drum.

[GAR]

My preference is for the old lighter mahog/poplar/mahog shells, they're more resonant at lower volumes which is better for recording than the multi-birch or maple ply modern power shells.

To me, if I had to I would spend the money for new lugs and fill n redrill.. I like the older nitrocellulose wraps, the wood, the smell of the wood and the sound so I'd consider it an investment in sound.

Older import lowball kits like Pearl, Crown, Sound Percussion or CB in rough shape are worth something to a beginner - but they're not worth refurbing with new lugs and rims and crap.. because the used private-party deals out there for decent gear are so many in number it makes better sense to just buy another used kit and sell the kit with problems to someone else willing to take a shot at fixing em up.