6534 Amp

[GAR]

I think what he's smoking is the problem, because if his amp has something particular about it I will see that in the schematic.

Fork it over, Jay and I'll tell you what's the deal with that one.

(It's so special that it's hidden qualities must be in the canine-range of hearing) - I just don't hear it.

[GAR]

NO - you know what: I think I've heard this before from you in the past "my amp / Boogie has schematic / freinds copying"

Post it, or start recording with a new amp that works without hissing and bad tubes.

[Nitro Express]

Shit. Dr. Phil belongs here.

[Nitro Express]

Maybe you should start smoking again...

[ELVIS]

[jhale667]

Shit. Dr. Phil belongs here.

He'd have a field day with the dude obsessing on other people's gear....the one assuming he knows what tracks were recorded with what, and the age of other people's tubes...much less the difference in the circuits of a green-stripe MK III vs. a red-stripe.


He'd probably review the situation and pronounce "This GAyR character needs to DIE IN A FIRE..."


As for the differences in the circuits...surprised asshat hasn't GOOGLED it.

[GAR]

...much less the difference in the circuits of a green-stripe MK III vs. a red-stripe.

If you post the schematic I'll comment, otherwise I am sorry if it seems I don't care about the cork-sniffer differences in variations, to me a Boogie's a Boogie.

All that speculative hand-wringing you Boogie guys do over there, is just talking points!

[ELVIS]

Hand wired dog shit is still dog shit...

[Seshmeister]

I'm not sure how you would do that.

[jhale667]

Douche nozzles say wha?

If you post the schematic I'll comment

I'm not going to, so do feel free to STFU.

to me a Boogie's a Boogie.

Yet further proof you have NO idea WTF you're talking about...shock.

Hand wired dog shit is still dog shit...

Much like a bad Yngwie wannabe playing through stereo anything is still....a wannabe clone. In stereo.

[Nitro Express]

He'd have a field day with the dude obsessing on other people's gear....the one assuming he knows what tracks were recorded with what, and the age of other people's tubes...much less the difference in the circuits of a green-stripe MK III vs. a red-stripe.


He'd probably review the situation and pronounce "This GAyR character needs to DIE IN A FIRE..."


As for the differences in the circuits...surprised asshat hasn't GOOGLED it.

The answer is easy. Gar is telepathic. I think he was a guest on Coast to Coast AM the other night.

[Nitro Express]

Hand wired dog shit is still dog shit...

Those might look like wires in the shit, but a close analysis would probably reveal they are round worms.

[jhale667]

Correction.

The answer is easy. Gar is telepathetic.

That's better.

[GAR]

Hand wired dog shit is still dog shit...

Circuitboard-wired amps that sound great, sound great for decades to that respect.. which include Diezel, Marshall from the JMP's onward (up to about DSL100) and the Boogie Mark4's and 5's which does have a really cleaned-up clean sound in the classic Fender range.

I'm not of the opinion there's a superiority in hand-wired versus PCB-assembled amps because since the Post-Grunge era "return-to-stock configuration" fad came up in the late 90's, it was techs and other people reissuing boutique examples of old vintage circuits out of Aspen Pittman's Amp Book that had no skills whatsoever in CAD and could not make the financial outlay required for a run of printed circuit boards for their amps.

So when they marketed "their" amps' lack of technical integration, a negative became a positive selling feature by tying a more pure, basic tube path sound to the way it looked and was assembled.. "look, 'point-to-point' just like in the old days" easily glossed-over the more stable and serviceable PCB assembly. And all these garage-builder guys started selling - probably much to their surprise - so it began to be an expected feature to request "does this amp have point-to-point handwiring?"

Shit. Who cares about whether the components are soldered to huge rivet lug connections, or copper traces. It's still copper, it's still gonna flow electricity thru it? And if a maker of amps isn't selling a thousand or more amps a year, you can almost guarantee that he's not getting his boards stuffed in China on auto-insertion machinery ::coughFendercough:: so anything sold by its' builder whether it's a PCB or turret-board handwired "point-to-point construction" board, by definition is "hand-wired."

Whether it's any good or not, or as Jay demostrates whether the owner of the amp can play or not, is a whole other issue.

So YES Elvis is correct, handwired dogshit still sounds like dogshit because of the mathematical equation of amplification has problems, not because it is or is not handwired.

[Nitro Express]

Hand wired or circuit board doesn't matter. It's electron flow period. Hand wired amps are easier to do mods on but circuit board assembly is faster and more efficient. Both methods suck if there are poor electrical connection due to cold solder joints, loose solder joints, or inferior traces on the board. In the end, they both allow electrons to flow to the various components with the right resistance value.