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The original 5150 is one thing. Balls to the wall. With the right EQ, speakers, and the right guitar you can get some magic happening but the 6534 is a way better amp. We will see on reliability. The 5150 with it's cold bias and 6L6 tubes was a brick shit house as far as reliability. I do have a feeling I better keep some extra EL-34's on hand with the new amp.
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Yeah, but never throw 'em away. My system is Sharpie it "IN (date) OUT (date)" so that even if the get mixed with other quads on the workbench I can keep a set a set.
What speakers are you running in your B cab?Comment
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The amp is quite good, Ill check it out later.
Right now this is my main interest:
Look at the red, webbed cloth surround, it's of similar design to the Altec 417. However the dustcaps are paper here, not original.
Originally they were 2" titanium dustcaps, which brought out the highs but without the weight of the larger JBL and Altec "C" and ceramic series 2.
The earlier 417 "B" had the smaller diameter dustcap and the Stephens Trusonic sounded very close, with the Trusonic less huffy and abit warmer.
O G-d, if Peavey is doing this speaker right I can do away with my Celestion 30/75 mixed cabs, because it means I can afford them. Great Plains Audio makes the 417-C and their price is prohibitive for the quantity I would use.Comment
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Celestian classic 30's. British ones. Not the Chinese ones.
I order my tubes from tubedepot.com The put the bias rating right on the tubes so you can match them or know what to reorder if one particular rated tube sounds good in your amp. In my 6505 the tubes run on the cold side so they last a long time. I also let the amp warm up a good two minutes on stand by before powering up the plates. I also let the amp cool down before moving it. What usually does tubes in is the heating and cooling. I just leave the amp on standby all night if we are gigging during breaks. As soon as the stage is setup I turn the amp on and leave it on all night.No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!Comment
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Peavey makes their own speakers. Hartley said he did that because the speaker manufactures in the 1970's weren't making anything that could stand up to the big solid state power amps Peavey was making. They were blowing speakers all the time so Peavey started making their own matching the speaker to the amp.
I have an old 5150 cab with the Sheffield speakers they built to Eddie's specs. They are 25 watt speakers. Later Peavey put in higher rated speakers because people were blowing the EVH Sheffields. Once the Sheffield speakers break in they sound very good. One thing I've noticed with Peavey speakers is you have to break them in and it takes a while. When they are new in the store they don't sound as good as they do after they have been played for awhile. I've never blown a speaker yet. My 5150 cab is made from baltic birch but it weighs a ton. A Marshall cab is ligher and frankly easier to move around. On the higher end amps Peavey does a good job of matching the speakers to the amp.No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!Comment
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Power tubes last longer in high gain amps as well. You just aren't driving the power section that hard because most the clipping takes place in the preamp. The 6534 sounds good at all volumes, in fact when I do start clipping the power stage I have to readjust the pre gain and EQ a big but the amp is so fucking loud you just aren't going to crank the master volume past 7. If I do that the singer and drummer start to cry. LOL! My wife won't let the thing in the house because it rattled her doll collection around and one doll got broke. So the amps are in our guest apartment above the barn.No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!Comment
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You know your amps and cabs, Ive had all-4 V30's in one cab before and I think I'm happier with a pair of 75's added, like the way one selects tweeters for high-range in a stereo.
I was never particular about Vintage 30 speakers back in the 80's when second-hand greenback 25's were plentiful. I avoided 'em.
I've tried most everything Celestion's made since 1968 in a twelve.. and the whole time I've had freinds telling me "there's a REASON most people prefer the top 4 Celestion offers" but I had to learn the hard way because I'm distrustful of specifications and wanted a firsthand learning curve not someone else's.
So last spring I read somewhere George Lynch orders his Randall cabs this way, so I guess I'm in good company.. I knew EVH crossed pairs of 25's and g12H-30s because in 88 or 89 when Roth sold Ed's Diver Down 8x12 Flagg Systems cabs to Guitar Center, we got in there with a screwdriver and found out the truth. So I never felt bad about mixing pairs, but I felt reaffirmed somehow when I read Lynch chose that particular pair.
I can see this new amp doing fine with the V30 if it's really broken-in, or just turned up really loud but then you got that attic.. my guess is once you can play inside a place openly thats 400sq ft or bigger you're gonna really hear what this amp and that cabinet can do and you'll shit yourself past 1/4 volume levels.Comment
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btw I was taught shut-down from a few amp techs was the right way to do it, your way.
Their theory is, you give the filter caps a chance to dissipate instead of hard shutdown which they say risks over-capacity peaking that can cause micro-pilferations of the mylar/electrolytic paste barriers which may or may not shorten it's life.
Tubes aren't affected, Ken Bran and Jim Marshall told me that.. though I feel because they couldn't explain "why" they might be incorrect. Jim told me "doesn't matter one way OR the other, if you want to hit standby before shutdown it won't help or hurt anything. The standby is there to prevent cathode stripping from cold start operation letting 'em warm up you see."
So regardless of possible tube or caps shock from hard shutdown, I also rely upon advice from a few pro players who say: when you shut off, just hit both switches simultaneous. Yeah, I hear a low "klunk!" when the final stored energy hits the speakers, but I figure that's what the 1amp fuse is for. I mean, that slight pop is nothing compared to the way the speaker jumps from a Hush-silenced stillness to a full chord roar. Nothing at all like it.
So that's why I hit both Standby and Power at the same time, but only Power on first for a minute before doing Standby.Comment
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Wow, hows that 75% VAT doing for you?
I mean 2 percent. You see, it all started one day with a vote, "VAT taxes will be so small, just 2 percent." but they always grow beyond scale.
After the vote, that's the next shoe to drop over here - thanks for bringing it up.Comment
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The top rate is 17.5% just now so 7% higher than your sales tax.
A lot of stuff like food, energy, books, stuff for kids is 0%.
An amp would be 17.5% plus there would be import duties but it's still weird.Last edited by Seshmeister; 10-31-2010, 01:19 PM.Comment
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Why settle for something you have, if it's not as good as something you're out to get?
Originally posted by SeshmeisterIt's like putting up a YouTube of Bach and playing Chopstix on your Bontempi...
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That was the first place I looked - your link shows £1400 GBP which is where I got the $2245 figure according to the current exchange rate.Comment
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Wow. I know Peavey has a whole European division based in the UK. They own Trace Elliot. It might be that an import tariff is being slapped on it because the 6534 is made in the USA. Marshalls have always been really expensive here. It's kind of the same deal. I did visit the Marshall factory last time I was in the UK. It's still family owned and a pretty interesting place.No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!Comment
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I believe it was either Musican's Friend or American Music Supply who listed it for about $1145Reading Crazy From the Heat in four hours flat, in a cramped RV, on the return trip of a 3,000+ mile family outing to New Jersey is an enlightening experience you'll never forget.Comment
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