6534 Amp

[Coyote]

Might have to save up for either a LH series head, or a VC combo...




Although, I'm tempted to get a 6534 and slap some KT77's in it.

[Seshmeister]

Might have to save up for either a LH series head, or a VC combo...

Like the guys playing but not convinced by the over driven rhythm sound at the end which if I'm honest is what I would be using 80% of the time.

Sounds muddy and buzzy.

[Coyote]

IIRC, Laney has TAD brand tubes out-of-the-box... Swap the preamp tubes, and it'll clear up nicely.

[Nitro Express]

I hear that from every soundman. I still like the looks on their face when you roll up with a wall of cabinets: "You can't do that."

Oh yes we did..

I just go direct with my bass now and wear in ear monitors. Shit it's what Geddy Lee does now. For guitar, I can't stand doing that. I have to have a real amp blazing and I think two mics on the speaker adds to the sound dynamic.

[Nitro Express]

Stereo!

I still use my trusty ADA MP1

Are you running one amp dry and one wet?

[GAR]

.. sound at the end which if I'm honest is what I would be using 80% of the time. Sounds muddy and buzzy.

To be fair, the LH is a 6L6-based amp which is a very difficult tube to get clipping nicely, the full frequency spectrum.

The LH's limited by the tube itself, to its credit it does sound more like a Fender in the cleans, but it does get some useable distortion - just not enough for a "British" amp, with the pedigree Laney's are known for.

This is not the amp to go shoving KT77's into, it's just not designed for that - I really wouldn't think of doing that at all for .. several paragraphs of boring reasons I won't snooze you with here.

I mean, if Fender won't build a nice amp like this with such beatiful cleans based on the venerable 6L6, the market need just dictates someone else will! So Laney came up with this..

[GAR]

IIRC, Laney has TAD brand tubes out-of-the-box... Swap the preamp tubes, and it'll clear up nicely.

The main problem with that soundclip, is the Celestion Seventy-80. That's the most physically stiff speaker Celestion ever made.. a schoolyard chain-link fence has softer compliance than that thing!

Like the Rocket 50 (which Laney has also used) the Seventy-80 is also made in China. I like it even less than the old G12M-70.. and just like the 70, the Seventy-80 sounds like it was ALSO designed with the intent on limiting Solid-state ice-pick treble tones with a super-stiff compliance web beneath the cone. I've experimented with 'em and they don't have decent range.

If this guy in the clip had greenbacks, G12H-30's, 65's, 75's or V30's you'd hear greater definition - more than changing out the preamp tubes could do for him.

[GAR]

Are you running one amp dry and one wet?

Stereo effect outputs are usually that way, with L-channel as the dry/straight signal and R-channel as the affected side.

He's got an Andy Summers setup! I bet that chorus setting sounds amazing.

[ELVIS]

Are you running one amp dry and one wet?

Yeah, and sometimes both dry...

I also run a Behringer V-Amp Pro for added EQ and the cab simulator, that really works well...

My coolest stereo effect comes from splitting my signal from my guitar into my MP1 and JHE pedal into the separate amps. The rotating speaker effect sounds awesome on one amp with the MP1 delivering it's dry crunch on the other...

[ELVIS]

I used a very wet sound for years but now I'm enjoying it dry...

It forces me to play much cleaner...

[GAR]

Wow that's quite the compact setup, comparatively.

I mean I've seen some guys do a gig with a PodXT and an AVT combo, and it sounds tinny and fucked up in front of the stage where the chicks shake ass.. but at the back of the club where the PA impacts the bass-end, it hits and I often wonder "geez, that guy sounded shitty up there, but awesome back here" and it almost wins me over.

Maybe you only use one combo for church, and run wet to the PA -OR- run both combos, or run both AND juice the PA.

How big is that place anyways, packed? 200? 500?

[Dan]

Wow that's quite the compact setup, comparatively.

I mean I've seen some guys do a gig with a PodXT and an AVT combo, and it sounds tinny and fucked up in front of the stage where the chicks shake ass.. but at the back of the club where the PA impacts the bass-end, it hits and I often wonder "geez, that guy sounded shitty up there, but awesome back here" and it almost wins me over.

Maybe you only use one combo for church, and run wet to the PA -OR- run both combos, or run both AND juice the PA.

How big is that place anyways, packed? 200? 500?

Get Back In The Sheep Pen You Sheep Fucker.

[Nitro Express]

I used a very wet sound for years but now I'm enjoying it dry...

It forces me to play much cleaner...

Same here. I'm just playing straight into the amp.

[jhale667]

Same here. I'm just playing straight into the amp.

I did that for over a decade, then as I got more cover gig work I started adding a few things here and there for versatility - first a chorus and a wah, then I decided to add a little more. Still the only things in front of my amp are a Boss TU-2, an MXR Micro Amp and the Vox wah...I'm currently running an MXR EVH Phase 90 and a Line 6 MM-4 and DL-4 (in that order) in my Boogie's loop. Nothing's ever on all the time though.

My buddy has a (now) identical (except for the fact it's a long chassis) MK III and we've run them in stereo via my DL-4 for giggles...sounds SICK. He'd totally let me borrow it, too- but 2 half stacks is kind of overkill for a cover gig... (not to mention quick channel changes x2 involves tap-dancing).

[ELVIS]

Sell the Mesy Booger and get a pair of nice combo amps...