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  • DLR Bridge
    ROCKSTAR

    • Mar 2011
    • 5470

    #61
    Originally posted by Kristy
    Um, Jimmy stole from everybody who he thought were too obscure for his ignorant fan base that has little to do with the 60's: Howlin' Wolf; Sleepy John Estes; Albert King; Sonny Boy Williamson (especially him); Ledbelly; Blind Willie McTell; Little Walter. Although many of these artist were still alive in the 60's, Jimmy had no financial respect for them.
    Ok, so you read Hammer of the Gods. Tell us how you really feel. If he credited his influences every step of the way, would he still suck to you? Ed was very much inspired by Page by the way. He stumbled onto hammering while watching him FFS. Regardless, I respect your differing opinion.

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    • Etienne
      Commando
      • Aug 2010
      • 1196

      #62
      Why groundbreaking? I wrote this:

      Originally posted by Etienne
      1. Because the sound of the band wasn't heard before. The early recordings.

      2. You can hear in almost every modern, post Zep, rock riff influences by Jimmy Page. Especially in Van Halen.
      Kristy, you disagreed especially with "the sound of the band wasn't heard before".

      Tell me what band sounded as Zep in the 60s.

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      • Kristy
        DIAMOND STATUS
        • Aug 2004
        • 16340

        #63
        Oh, okay. That it explains it then.

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        • Etienne
          Commando
          • Aug 2010
          • 1196

          #64
          Originally posted by chefcraig
          Apparently you've never heard the first Jeff Beck Group album Truth, which predates the first Zep album by several months. It's been pointed out before that not only did Page like the album, he accompanied Beck's band on their first tour. And to top things off, both Page and Jones appear on the album!
          I know that album. Still it doesn't sound like Zep to my ears.

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          • Kristy
            DIAMOND STATUS
            • Aug 2004
            • 16340

            #65
            Originally posted by DLR Bridge
            If he credited his influences every step of the way, would he still suck to you?
            Yes, of course.

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            • So this is love
              Veteran
              • Jan 2012
              • 2394

              #66
              Is Elbow off today??
              Now who`s that babe with the fab-u-lous shad-ow?

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              • Jagermeister
                Full Member Status

                • Apr 2010
                • 4510

                #67
                Originally posted by chefcraig
                Apparently you've never heard the first Jeff Beck Group album Truth, which predates the first Zep album by several months. It's been pointed out before that not only did Page like the album, he accompanied Beck's band on their first tour. And to top things off, both Page and Jones appear on the album!

                Man I haven't heard that in a long time.

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                • Jagermeister
                  Full Member Status

                  • Apr 2010
                  • 4510

                  #68
                  Originally posted by Etienne
                  I know that album. Still it doesn't sound like Zep to my ears.
                  It's kinda does actually. It's just a slower less loud Zep kinda feel IMO.

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                  • Etienne
                    Commando
                    • Aug 2010
                    • 1196

                    #69
                    Originally posted by Jagermeister
                    It's kinda does actually. It's just a slower less loud Zep kinda feel IMO.
                    Wich songs?

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                    • chefcraig
                      DIAMOND STATUS
                      • Apr 2004
                      • 12172

                      #70
                      Originally posted by Etienne
                      I know that album. Still it doesn't sound like Zep to my ears.
                      Perhaps to you, but when Beck heard Zep's debut, he was so agitated that Page had gone to such lengths to rip off his sound that the two stopped communicating for several years, with Beck taking shots at Page over the years in the press.









                      “The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge.”
                      ― Stephen Hawking

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                      • Jagermeister
                        Full Member Status

                        • Apr 2010
                        • 4510

                        #71
                        Originally posted by Etienne
                        Wich songs?

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                        • So this is love
                          Veteran
                          • Jan 2012
                          • 2394

                          #72
                          Originally posted by chefcraig
                          Apparently you've never heard the first Jeff Beck Group album Truth, which predates the first Zep album by several months. It's been pointed out before that not only did Page like the album, he accompanied Beck's band on their first tour. And to top things off, both Page and Jones appear on the album!

                          Great album!! but that doesn`t make it Zep but just an era of sound influence, just like VH influenced other bands and the Nirvana grunge era...
                          Now who`s that babe with the fab-u-lous shad-ow?

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                          • chefcraig
                            DIAMOND STATUS
                            • Apr 2004
                            • 12172

                            #73
                            Originally posted by Jagermeister
                            It's kinda does actually. It's just a slower less loud Zep kinda feel IMO.
                            Hell, look at the pacing of the track listing on both albums, which is identical right down to featuring an acoustic guitar solo on side two.












                            “The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge.”
                            ― Stephen Hawking

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                            • So this is love
                              Veteran
                              • Jan 2012
                              • 2394

                              #74
                              Originally posted by Etienne
                              Wich songs?
                              You have to be open minded...
                              Now who`s that babe with the fab-u-lous shad-ow?

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                              • Jagermeister
                                Full Member Status

                                • Apr 2010
                                • 4510

                                #75
                                I never was a huge fan of that album. Something about Rod's voice just doesnt work for me.

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