Official July 5 Seattle, WA, White River Amphitheatre Meetup/Review Thread
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Another one of those classic genius posts, sure to generate responses. You log on the next day to see what your witty gem has produced to find no one gets it and 2 knotheads want to stick their dicks in it... Well played, sir!!Comment
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I think they worship the music and memories more than they worship Dave. I think they are willing to overlook, or even remain in denial, to try to give themselves that same rush they got the first time they heard those classic songs on the radio. Or, if they were lucky enough, to see this band when they were hungry and passionate. They aren't making excuses, they are just tolerating a real lack of effort, to make themselves feel better.
I do not believe Dave can't do a better job. Sure, he isn't what he was way back when, vocally. But I do believe he has the ability to do a better job than he's doing. However, that would require him to put at least as much effort into this, as he does his other interests. The fact of the matter is, he's obviously not willing. He doesn't seem to care. He is going through the motions. The real truth about this will come out when the Van Halen's tire of his lack of participation, and part ways with him yet again. I truly don't think Dave at this point, will care. Other than the loss of an easy pay day. He'll care about that. Dave has gotten complacent in Van Halen.
In terms of Dave's effort Von, I honestly don't believe that Dave has anyone around him anymore that's willing to plant him in front of a computer and show him negative review after negative review.... I know he sure as fuck isn't going to do the research himself....
I'm willing to overlook Dave's yelping, albeit with some cringes here and there...
I'm flying out west tomorrow to visit the grandkids, I may have the opportunity to see them at Glen Helen Regional Paaaaaaaaaaaaark (yes, I know it's San Manuel Ampitheater now) on Saturday night... Just something historic to see Van Halen at the US Festival site, but we'll see.....Eat Us And Smile - The Originals
"I have a very belligerent enthusiasm or an enthusiastic belligerence. I’m an intellectual slut." - David Lee Roth
"We are part of the, not just the culture, but the geography. Van Halen music goes along with like fries with the burger." - David Lee RothComment
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In terms of Dave's effort Von, I honestly don't believe that Dave has anyone around him anymore that's willing to plant him in front of a computer and show him negative review after negative review.... I know he sure as fuck isn't going to do the research himself....
I'm flying out west tomorrow to visit the grandkids, I may have the opportunity to see them at Glen Helen Regional Paaaaaaaaaaaaark (yes, I know it's San Manuel Ampitheater now) on Saturday night... Just something historic to see Van Halen at the US Festival site, but we'll see.....Comment
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No one to get in his face and be brutally honest? Out of love? That's too bad. Not even his sisters? Damn.Comment
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As the hugest DLR dicksuck in the history of the Internet, I'll even say I've had it with his slip 'n slide thing and now those goddamn bowling shoes. What the fuck? That fucking Electric Boogaloo thing is 10-times bigger than it was last time. How the fuck will the rest of the band move around without hurting themselves? That fuckin thing should have some cones or signs on it, Ed's on a new hip for Christ's sake. Isn't there a civic law about that stuff? That sliding around shit was cool at first but I'm tired of it. Next thing you know the son of a bitch is going to take the stage in ice skates.Comment
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In terms of Dave's effort Von, I honestly don't believe that Dave has anyone around him anymore that's willing to plant him in front of a computer and show him negative review after negative review.... I know he sure as fuck isn't going to do the research himself....
I do agree that he mostly don't give a fuck about what the fans are saying about his vocals. He ditched the dance floor shimmy and headset for this tour but I bet it was Wolf who called him out on that on the last tour. He's got enough money to retire comfortably (we think) and a quickie 3-month summer tour is about the easiest money any musician can make these days. Need spending cash for those Japan trips and Russell's vet bills.Comment
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The only criticism I have had of this band is the same as '08 around that time Ed and Al seemed to be stepping up the tempo, of the whole show ....many VH Classic Song are a certain amount of BPM but the shift changes as individually expressed in many of the tunes has melded into one long song.
Reminds me of the grateful dead and how displeased I became back in 1985 when every concert was just the hour and 57 min version of trucking.
Ed and Al are playing too fast...the subtleties are meshing into a blur...I don't believe it is to speed thru the show. I believe they are just playing too fast due to some .................................................. ...thing.......................................... ....?
Still thru all the BS and Cool'oughsity DLR fronted VH is the best show in town for this kid.2015 once smoke 2 smoke ...poke
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Considering they made three dollars off the live album, they probably didn't have much to invest in the stage and lights.WE'RE ON A MISSION FROM ROTH.Comment
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I think they worship the music and memories more than they worship Dave. I think they are willing to overlook, or even remain in denial, to try to give themselves that same rush they got the first time they heard those classic songs on the radio. Or, if they were lucky enough, to see this band when they were hungry and passionate. They aren't making excuses, they are just tolerating a real lack of effort, to make themselves feel better.
I do not believe Dave can't do a better job. Sure, he isn't what he was way back when, vocally. But I do believe he has the ability to do a better job than he's doing. However, that would require him to put at least as much effort into this, as he does his other interests. The fact of the matter is, he's obviously not willing. He doesn't seem to care. He is going through the motions. The real truth about this will come out when the Van Halen's tire of his lack of participation, and part ways with him yet again. I truly don't think Dave at this point, will care. Other than the loss of an easy pay day. He'll care about that. Dave has gotten complacent in Van Halen.
Yeah, he DOES come across as complacent now at times, but it's an odd type of complacence. In a way, his yelling rather than singing does display SOME kind of an effort, but it is just misdirected. It's almost as if there is nobody telling him how bad his yelling sounds, and the band appears to be tolerant of it. I dunno if the relationships between the Van Halens and Roth are fragile to the point where Dave and the Halens are afraid to say anything to each other about individual performances in fear that the whole thing could just derail...I mean, shit, if Dave had chosen to bail on the initial reunion tour once 2008 rolled around and Ed's level of performance then was just as substandard as Dave's is these days, I wouldn't have blamed Dave (although realistically Roth wouldn't have bailed on a bunch of dates that had already been booked and sold).
The truth of the matter is that should Roth leave the band, nobody is going to really give a shit in terms of commercial draw what the fragments would do. Maybe Sam and Mike could rejoin the band and another Sam Halen reunion might have some ticket-selling power...but Dave knows unless he is fronting Van Halen these days his drawing power as a solo artist is virtually nil.
I too believe Dave is capable of doing a much better job vocally live than he has been in the last 3 years. For me, Roth doesn't need to leap around the stage or try and emit those barefoot-on-hot-coals screams. Both of those aspects are (and have been) years behind him. All he has to do is sing the tunes. I can't believe that yelling the tunes is somehow easier than just singing them.Scramby eggs and bacon.Comment
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I don't think that sounds as crazy as one might assume.
The kid appears to be the only one functional enough to pick killer set-lists, handle social media and promotion, etc... Frankly, Wolf is doing a damn good job cat-herding those old fucks out onto the road and workin...
And the band would probably have been comfortable just serving up the same 20 best-known CVH tunes tour after tour, had Wolf not had the input that he does. Wolf is the one with the ambition now. Ed is still playing now because he enjoys playing with his kid, and his kid is the one who was smart enough to get Dave back into the band and get the band to rehearse those deep cuts for the last 3 tours.
Everyone remembers what happened when Ed took total control of the band. We got Gary Cherone and Van Halen III for our troubles.Scramby eggs and bacon.Comment
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