Was Eddies meltdown a publicity stunt?

[DavidLeeNatra]

Re: Re: wishful thinking

Originally posted by Lou
A disaster? What exactly does DLR have to lose anymore? It's not like anyone but us are following him anymore.

disagree...dave might not have that big fanbase anymore but whatever he does he does 110%...all class...all style...even if he plays small clubs he delivers the goods for us...he's got to lose that...and he won't...

[Switch84]

Re: Re: Re: wishful thinking

Originally posted by DavidLeeNatra
disagree...dave might not have that big fanbase anymore but whatever he does he does 110%...all class...all style...even if he plays small clubs he delivers the goods for us...he's got to lose that...and he won't...

:D :D :D Amen, 'Natra! I ain't leaving him! As for the fair weather 'fans', FUCK YOU!!




NUTHIN' BUT YEAH!

Kiss THIS.....

[Warham]

I liked going over the Links and reading all the excuses people make for that drunken slob that played the guitar on the last Van Hagar tour.

I liked the old Pete Townshend arguement. That'd be all fine and dandy if Ed had smashed his guitar for, oh, let's say the last 25 years or so? How many times has Ed smashed his guitar since the mid 70's anyway?

It's pretty obvious that Ed was sloshed out of his fuckin' mind. Any little thing the Ched Head or Bass Player said or did would have probably set Ed off.

[lms2]

Re: Re: wishful thinking

Originally posted by Lou
A disaster? What exactly does DLR have to lose anymore? It's not like anyone but us are following him anymore.

Ambulance chasers of the world unite! Dave gives a whole new meaning to the word.

I love you guy's and gal's speculation and theories... :D

Back at the beginning of the tour, I was of the opinion that a lot of what Ed was doing was didn't smack quite right... and I am still of that opinion.

Failed publicity stunt? Who knows, Dave always was in charge of publicity.

[Nitro Express]

Ed acted like a kid on the last day of school. You might have a teacher you desperately want to tell to fuck off, but you need them to graduate. Inside you are secretly biting at the bit to unleash what you really are feeling deep down inside but you want to graduate even more.

Ed fulfilled his contractual obligations and at the end of it, he whipped his dick out and pissed all over everybody including himself. Basically Ed snapped when he smelled the end of the tour, he let go. He smeared his shit all over the padded cell in rebellion.

[DLRdelight!]

I think you are correct my friend, it is the return of the great dlr

[BIG GOOSE]

Re: Re: Re: Was Eddies meltdown a publicity stunt?

Originally posted by Carmine Raguzza.
Right. The 'meltdown" was Ed growing a set of nuts! Alex will NEVER pass
up the amount of money to be made from a tour with Dave, nor will "the bass player"...he may play a show or 2 with Shambo, but when it comes time, he'll be there too!

Exactly! Mikey may be up Sam's ass but he'll never pass up a Van Halen reunion,his pay would be considerably better than playing in front of a few hundred Hagaritas per night.

[DavidLeeNatra]

Originally posted by DLRdelight!
I think you are correct my friend, it is the return of the great dlr

no way...I say...

[Warham]

It's delusional to think that Dave is coming back to Van Halen.

Look at the other three members of the group...Ed is an unhappy attention whore and wino, Alex is the biggest cunt in the world, and the Bass Player is Sam's consort.

It's just not going to happen.

[Carmine]

You know, I thought about this more last night. It's not Dave that can or will save Eddie Van Halen. I still think his actions on stage in AZ the other night were thought out and pre-planned,but as fas as his alcoholism is concerned, Valerie couldn't do it, the band, including Dave and/or Sam couldn't do it. He has been on tour for 80 nights and hammered at every one of them, with Wolfie watching! That's right! Wolfie! If there is a person on the earth that can look at Ed and say, " I love you, but your killing yourself and I don't want you to die!" It is a mans son! Nobody can say that Ed doesn't love this kid and vice-versa, that is most likely what needs to happen for Ed to get the help he needs...then we talk about Dave!

[LookN4AMootBeat]

Sorry bro, it doesn't work that way with addicts. We'd all like to think that it does but it doesn't. It's not like in the movies, where an alcoholic always learns to turn things around for the love of a child.....it's completely different. Those things do cross the minds of addicts but they don't matter in the long run.

I don't mean to patronize what you've said. It's just that we've got to look at Ed's state of mind this way: how long has he been an alcoholic?.......since he started van halen at the very least,,,,,that's probably about 30 yrs. Now think about it, 30 years of living, behaving, and reacting and learned responses to life, all the while his brain's thought patterns have been guided by alcoholic influence. Alcohol may leave your system physically within a week, but the influence of your alcoholic thought patterns take a very very long time to dissipate.

An addict who's that far gone knows no other way. He's been thinking like a drunk for 30 years and knows no other way of thinking. His sense of right and wrong has been that of a drunk for 30 years. Everyone knows how anyone's sense of right and wrong goes haywire when drunk or high, imagine knowing no other way of thinking for nearly 2 3rds of your life. I'm not saying people shouldn't drink, I still drink, and I used to party like everyone else. I'm just describing what it does on a grand scale. And with Ed, yep the scale is grand.

What's even worse is the likelyhood that the times he tried to get sober he probably discovered that he simply wasn't able to play his guitar the same way, which would've killed him inside, but it was likely true. We're talking about 30 years of a learned bodily response (playing guitar) influenced by alcohol. When the alcohol was gone for all we know his fingers might not have been able to do a damn thing. I've seen this happen to a drummer i know:

He basically learned drums on drugs and alcohol......25 years later he was clean and tried to play in a band but couldn't keep a beat. It was like he didnt know how to do the most basic thing on the instrument he'd been playing since we were all in diapers. Ed's stuck in his own rutt and will never leave that rutt willingly. He's between a rock and a hard place. If he stops drinking he's afraid his playing will suffer, if he doesn't stop drinking then his life will suffer.

That brick wall he's headed for is the only thing that has a remote chance of turning things around.....if he survives it. And if he decides to continue playing after that then it'll take a long time for him to be able to play good enough for him to be happy with it. He'll be an old man by then.....really old. It's the rock and the hard place again, even if he does get clean by some miracle.

Sad to say but literally that padded cell from hot for teacher is where he belongs.

I almost didnt post this because I know how sad and negative it is, but I grew up Idolizing Eddie, he's my hero and it kills me to see these things happening, but they are. Someone cheer me up please.

[Carmine]

Logically dude, everything you have said makes perfect sense. But, in Eddies case it may work out differently. I hope it does. No one can say that EVH is not in love with 2 things...his son and his music. Both of which are suffering greatly, by his continued abuse of alcohol! I still think Eddie has a clear idea of what he wants in the future, maybe all the drinkin on this tour was an outlet, an escape, so to speak. I still beleive that HE knew this whole thing was a failure early on, but had to stick it out! It is just way to ironic that this "outburst" happened at the last show, during the last song! Oh, and here is a "cheer-you-up" of Ed in his prime!

[LookN4AMootBeat]

LOL, thanks that's the dude i grew up with!
Oh, and i found somemore pick-me-ups at the "hot asses" thread!

[Carmine]

Originally posted by LookN4AMootBeat
LOL, thanks that's the dude i grew up with!
Oh, and i found somemore pick-me-ups at the "hot asses" thread!

I'm there..................................

[DLRdelight!]

Who knows what may happen in the future with DLR n VH