2004 FLEECE THE SHEEP TOUR: A Bust says ROLLING STONE MAGAZINE!

[Matt White]

MUSIC BIZ PERKS UP IN 2004: By Steve Knopper & Bill Werde.

Talks about how CD sales were up slightly last year. And the horrible touring season.
Van hagar? "Van Halen(Hagar) could not sell enough tickets to meet the high guaranteed payments the band demanded and LOST MONEY FOR PROMOTERS."

On a reunion tour...........

Guess EVH had better get to painting those Corn-dogs at home, he ain't goin' back on the road with the Spamster anytime soon.

[Nickdfresh]

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA... .....

Kool Aid© for sheep!

[edvanheineken]

Originally posted by Nickdfresh
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA... .....

Kool Aid© for sheep!

Why does the song "That's life" come to mind right now. I'm picturing goofy Hagar and Eddie spoof videos with that tune in the background. Even better..... "Asi es la vida" playing to videos of their half empty shows! Wow! Now that would be a blast to watch. Throw in a few shots of the promoters' faces as the bottom line comes in!

[Matt White]

Funny how SO many here called it a failure from the start.
No wonder they didn't talk to the press. Had to be depressing to take so much time off and realize NOBODY cared to have 'em back with Spam!
BWAHAHAHA!!!!

[academic punk]

Actually, that's the weird thing: usually in a situation like this, the band is REQUIRED to go into full damage control mode, and go out to the press, radio, MTV, WHATEVER to generate as much publicity for the tour as possible.

I GUARANTEE the promoters are extremely pissed off with the band for the lack of promotion and access for the press.

So what went wrong? here's my theory: Sammy and Mike were just hired hands this time around. Not worth ther while to try to sell more tickets, because they're making a fixed rate anyway. What do they ultimately care?

Eddie and Alex didn't do additional pres and promotion b/c
a) they are both lousy interviews and don't enjoy it.
b) Ed WAS undeniably constantly drunk and that would have been evident and an unavaoidable subject
c) The question of Dave (journalists would have been told no mentioning of Dave, but they can always work their way aorund to the subject, simply by mentioning "There's more classic material in this set than ever, why?"
d) they still rememeber the beating up in the press they received after the 96 reunion debacle and then the horseshit of VHIII. better not to do press, b/c they are such EMOTIONAL, IMMATURE, JUVENILE ASSHOLES, and being taken to task for their behavior and actions would HURT THEIR FEELINGS. WAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!

[Figs]

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[Nickdfresh]

Somebody outta' arrest the fucker for DRIVING DRUNK!

[tomballin]

Re: 2004 FLEECE THE SHEEP TOUR: A Bust says ROLLING STONE MAGAZINE!

Originally posted by Matt White
"Van Halen(Hagar) could not sell enough tickets to meet the high guaranteed payments the band demanded and LOST MONEY FOR PROMOTERS."

On a reunion tour...........

Guess EVH had better get to painting those Corn-dogs at home, he ain't goin' back on the road with the Spamster anytime soon.

Yelp the word started leaking out in August, that Clear Channel was losing their ass on the Van SpamBoys 04 Tour because they paid almost 2.5 times more than the market in guarantees to the Sisters.

In fact I saw it posted here at RA, was the first I heard about it before I started checking it out. Clear Channel's greed to control the market bit them in the ass, and the Sisters got rich off the deal.

The Van SpamBoys also was the highest ticket price of any 04 hard rock act, and CC still lost their ass.

If you look at the data for the last several years, ticket volume sales has been declining, yet the clowns keep raising their ticket prices, which just drys up more potential sales volume. Dumb, the fuckers need to go back and take 101 business management class!!!

[Rikk]

No surprise, but good find, Matt!

[Roguesgirl]

Originally posted by edvanheineken
Why does the song "That's life" come to mind right now. I'm picturing goofy Hagar and Eddie spoof videos with that tune in the background. Even better..... "Asi es la vida" playing to videos of their half empty shows! Wow! Now that would be a blast to watch. Throw in a few shots of the promoters' faces as the bottom line comes in!

LOL. :D

[tomballin]

Originally posted by Roguesgirl
LOL. :D

Shite don't kid yourself folks, Hagar made a boat load of money on that Tour also. It was the Sisters that wanted that money grab Tour, and they couldn't do it without Hagar, since Roth wasn't an option to those pricks, so Sammy's manager had the leverage in the deal.

Secondly, it was Hagar's manager that put that deal together, since the Sister's had burnt all their bridges over the years, and needed Hagar's infrastructure. This was another arena that hurt Dave's chances of doing the ReUnion. The Sisters, needed management, and industry connections, and Roth just doesn't have them like Hagar's wife does. She's the real driver behind drunk ass SpamBoy.

[scottydabodi]

Yeah, Matt... but you know the WE BOTH KNEW this right from the start... The big flop, and now all the Sheep are hiding under their beds... buncha douchebags.

[bueno bob]

Well, the one saving grace we get off of all this?

NO CHANCE that we'll ever see Van Hagar together on the road or in the studio ever again. I'd say that's pretty much signed, sealed and delivered at this point in the game.

Sam always said the only reason he'd do it (Van Halen) again was for the money, and he certainly made it. Now he and Mike can go Cabo Wabo 5150 NAMBLA time until they puke.

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[Chaz Rock City]

This couldn't have happened to a more deserving band. Fuck EVH and his sister.

I know there are people who like Van Hager, there are also a lot of people who think O.J. is innocent.

[tomballin]

Originally posted by bueno bob
Well, the one saving grace we get off of all this?

NO CHANCE that we'll ever see Van Hagar together on the road or in the studio ever again. I'd say that's pretty much signed, sealed and delivered at this point in the game.

Sam always said the only reason he'd do it (Van Halen) again was for the money, and he certainly made it. Now he and Mike can go Cabo Wabo 5150 NAMBLA time until they puke.

!

Totally agreed, Van Halen is over. I could see a chance of a Van Roth ReUnion in 07 - 08, if EVH is still alive, but..........