Why do Ed and Al not respect their back catalog?

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  • katie
    Crazy Ass Mofo
    • Nov 2004
    • 3072

    #16
    The original question was about rights & ownership.

    BTW - If Roth & Eddie played ball with each other and agreed on a new set of remasters with added material / photos & sleeve notes then WMG would go for it. These are proven million selling CDs.
    Not some fucking act that failed to re-coup the advance!

    Lesser fucking bands have done it!

    Wake up and smell the coffee!

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    • Wolverine

      #17
      isn't it quite obivious....DAVE made that back catalog...CASE CLOSED!!

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      • katie
        Crazy Ass Mofo
        • Nov 2004
        • 3072

        #18
        [QUOTE]Originally posted by tomballin
        [B] Katie, with all due and humble respect, you don’t have a clue what you are talking about or show an understanding for the music business. The biz is about #’s and $$$, period.


        So tell me why their debut VH1 the 10 million unit seller has not had a 25 year re-issue then?
        Surely this would make money ,Right!

        BTW - What the......do you know about the *music biz*?

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        • katie
          Crazy Ass Mofo
          • Nov 2004
          • 3072

          #19
          Originally posted by tomballin
          Katie, with all due and humble respect, you don’t have a clue what you are talking about or show an understanding for the music business. The biz is about #’s and $$$, period.

          What,…..you think the opinions of the small active base of R.A. members here, represents the larger market demand for repackaged Van Roth products WITHOUT a hot Van Roth Tour, and EVH clean from rehab? Unfortunately, it doesn’t - I wish it did, like you and everyone else here.

          But let’s look at the facts, a lot of VH’s greatest material is almost 30 years old, (with a frontman that has not been with his band in 20 years), and some of this great material been repackaged 3 times already. Secondly, the bootleg market is extremely strong on great unreleased VH stuff.

          WMG owns the “back-catalogs” on over 800 artists, not just VH. AND a lot of really great artists that have stayed current, (or are dead like Hendrix) unlike Van Roth. So, WMG doesn’t see any money in screwing with putting out more repackaged VH material.

          Hell, they dumped Van Halen in 2002 as their only label, since the band broke into the market in ’77. Then WMG pooped in their shorts on the ‘04 BOBW CD’s, and the 3 new tracks that blew dog.

          Accordingly, WMG has well demonstrated their interest in putting out any new/real VH material,...ZERO.

          Hey, the R.A. clan want some new hot steamy lil’ DVD’s. of Van Roth and DLR? Easy…….“certain members” makes them ourselves. I’m mastering some new videos right now. It is not like the bootleg material and technology doesn’t exist folks.
          YAWN....................

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          • DLR7884
            ROCKSTAR

            • Jan 2004
            • 5895

            #20
            [QUOTE]Originally posted by katie
            [B]
            Originally posted by tomballin
            Katie, with all due and humble respect, you don’t have a clue what you are talking about or show an understanding for the music business. The biz is about #’s and $$$, period.


            So tell me why their debut VH1 the 10 million unit seller has not had a 25 year re-issue then?
            Surely this would make money ,Right!


            It didn't have a 25 year anniversary disk....but it has been remastered and it was rereleased in the 90's as one of the gold collection disks.

            DLR7884
            Classic VH disks don't need outtakes and extra filler like Motley Crue reissues do....
            Originally Posted by WARF:
            DLR7884 - This guy is one bad ass sonafabitch... I've seen him destroy peoples posting careers in a single sentence.

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            • Coyote
              ROTH ARMY SUPREME
              • Jan 2004
              • 8185

              #21
              New proof that the BOBW ain't doin so good...
              Why settle for something you have, if it's not as good as something you're out to get?

              Originally posted by Seshmeister
              It's like putting up a YouTube of Bach and playing Chopstix on your Bontempi...

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              • Mishar_McLeud
                Head Fluffer
                • Apr 2004
                • 213

                #22
                Why not use BitTorrent? There are helluva LOT of Dave era stuff. I'm not interested in over-cropped and over-dubbed and over-credited official release a-la Right Here Right Now.
                'If there isn't something crazy that goes on in the span of the day then something's not right', - Zakk Wylde

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                • katie
                  Crazy Ass Mofo
                  • Nov 2004
                  • 3072

                  #23
                  Originally posted by DLR7884
                  It didn't have a 25 year anniversary disk....but it has been remastered and it was rereleased in the 90's as one of the gold collection disks.

                  DLR7884
                  Classic VH disks don't need outtakes and extra filler like Motley Crue reissues do....
                  You talk a load of Fucking Bollocks!
                  You sound like you are in the playground with your VH don't need rubbish.
                  If ED & AL where *normal * people they would be having dialogue with DLR and all the CVH cds would have the 2cd treatment, and we would all go out and re buy it looking for versions that we have not heard etc.

                  You are a naive uneducated twat!

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                  • DLR7884
                    ROCKSTAR

                    • Jan 2004
                    • 5895

                    #24
                    Originally posted by katie
                    You talk a load of Fucking Bollocks!
                    Be nice....your cunt stinks like death but I didn't mention that in my first post.


                    Originally posted by katie
                    You sound like you are in the playground with your VH don't need rubbish.
                    Excuse me, Stinky McSnatch....the original 6 albums VH did have stood the test of time on their own.

                    Unlike Motley Crue's lame ass reissues, VH doesn't need to add 4 demos of popular songs added to the end of the disk to sell more albums.


                    Originally posted by katie
                    If ED & AL where *normal * people
                    Should be "were."

                    Don't call me uneducated when you can't figure out how to form a fucking sentence correctly, stinky.

                    Originally posted by katie
                    If ED & AL where *normal * people they would be having dialogue with DLR and all the CVH cds would have the 2cd treatment, and we would all go out and re buy it looking for versions that we have not heard etc.

                    They aren't normal, so what's your point.

                    In case you have had your head jammed up your ass the last 7 years or so, there was some litigation involving DLR and the brothers regarding royalties....how the fuck do you know if some deal wasn't struck restricting VH AND/OR ROTH from releasing versions we haven't heard?

                    You don't know, so shut your fucking face.

                    Originally posted by katie
                    You are a naive uneducated twat!
                    See above regarding you calling me uneducated.

                    DLR7884
                    Are you on the rag or something, stinky?
                    Originally Posted by WARF:
                    DLR7884 - This guy is one bad ass sonafabitch... I've seen him destroy peoples posting careers in a single sentence.

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                    • katie
                      Crazy Ass Mofo
                      • Nov 2004
                      • 3072

                      #25
                      You seem to be having a bad day DLR7884

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                      • Bill Lumbergh
                        ROCKSTAR

                        • Mar 2004
                        • 5472

                        #26
                        Originally posted by katie
                        You seem to be having a bad day DLR7884
                        Actually, he's being nice to you.

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                        • katie
                          Crazy Ass Mofo
                          • Nov 2004
                          • 3072

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Bill Lumbergh
                          Actually, he's being nice to you.
                          No i belive he is having a bad day.
                          Bless him, he is just a twentysomething whos balls have yet to drop.
                          When his mom has finnished with her computer and he has done all the jobs around the house then if he is good she will let him back online again.

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                          • DLR7884
                            ROCKSTAR

                            • Jan 2004
                            • 5895

                            #28
                            Originally posted by katie
                            No i belive he is having a bad day.
                            No I wasn't having a bad day....I was being nice to you, cunt.



                            Originally posted by katie
                            Bless him, he is just a twentysomething whos balls have yet to drop.
                            I wouldn't drop my balls or a load anywhere near your pig ass.


                            Originally posted by katie
                            When his mom has finnished with her computer and he has done all the jobs around the house then if he is good she will let him back online again.
                            Learn how to spell "finished," whore.

                            DLR7884
                            Notice how she didn't refute anything that I said about VH or her stinkbox? LOL.
                            Originally Posted by WARF:
                            DLR7884 - This guy is one bad ass sonafabitch... I've seen him destroy peoples posting careers in a single sentence.

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                            • Mishar_McLeud
                              Head Fluffer
                              • Apr 2004
                              • 213

                              #29
                              Wow, I imagine what you 'bad day' is mate :D:D:D
                              'If there isn't something crazy that goes on in the span of the day then something's not right', - Zakk Wylde

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                              • DLR7884
                                ROCKSTAR

                                • Jan 2004
                                • 5895

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Mishar_McLeud
                                Wow, I imagine what you 'bad day' is mate :D:D:D
                                My "bad day" is everyone else's worst nightmare.

                                DLR7884
                                Originally Posted by WARF:
                                DLR7884 - This guy is one bad ass sonafabitch... I've seen him destroy peoples posting careers in a single sentence.

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