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Yallo to all. I don't post much since I spend enough time reading the forums to actually post something myself. Sometimes I even waste 1 whole hour that month!!! :p But something that always bothered me are the Sammy's defenders - sheep, you now call them - that come to this forum, knowing full well that it is only inhabited by the hostile Dave faction, to say "Sammy's better than Dave". And that's it... WHY is Sammy better than Dave? The time has come to make a detailed analysis on who's better at what, and then sum it up to see who's best.
Let's start with the obvious - who sings better. Many sheep say Sammy is a better singer. Well, I'll give you that. Sammy IS a better singer. He has more technique and a wider range, thus hitting many notes Dave probably couldn't.
Dave - 0 Sammy - 1
Live singing - Here, dave would get another bashing, since he can't seem to hit a note right live. However, he's never done playback either. Sammy has his own faults, too. By refusing to play Dave-era classics, he's not letting long time fans enjoy a proper VH concert, that is to say one with all the songs the fans like. He claims he doesn't like them, but to me the truth is he can't sing them as good as Dave. How, if he sings better? This is a natural phenomena. Look at Bruce Dickinson, for example. Easily one of the best voices around, and he can't sing any Paul Di'Anno songs properly. Sure, he's in key, but they don't sound half as good. But he DOES sing them, because he knows fans like them. Out of disrespect for his fans, Sammy gets flunked in this one.
Dave - 1 Sammy - 1
Stage presence. Since they're both frontmen, this also counts, obviously. You know I'm trying to say something good about Sammy here, but I just can't. This comparison isn't fair. Dave just wins, hands down!
Dave - 2 Sammy - 1
Van Halen years. Who has given more to Van Halen? Sammy was in 'For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge', a decent Van Halen album. It was the first time I listened to VH, and I must say I was impressed. However, I listened to other albums like 5150 and Balance, and suddenly I wasn't that impressed. This was BEFORE I listened anything Dave era!
Dave has given Van Halen 'Panama', 'Runnin' With The Devil', 'Little Guitars', 'Jump', 'Ice Cream Man', 'And The Cradle Will Rock', 'Hear About it Later', 'Unchained' and of course 'Ain't Talkin' 'Bout Love', among many others.
Most important, I haven't listened to any decent guitar sound in the Sammy era, apart from the FUCK album. And VH is nothing without the guitar, even you sheep must admit it.
Dave - 3 Sammy - 1
Solo careers. This is also important, since it is where the man is most defined as the artist he truly is. Dave continued, at first anyway, what he was doing with VH, later expanding into other hard rock venues with more or less success. Although he didn't give any real contribution to Music in this era, one cannot say that his career wasn't, at least, interesting.
Sammy's career was similar to Dave's in that he didn't get that much attention for it - Dave did only in the beginning, and only because he was still hot from VH. Quite frankly, I didn't hear any of his solo albums, as I'm quite disinterested of it, but I listened to him play 'Hound Dog' on the the guitar on an Elvis tribute concert, and it wasn't half bad. Plus, I listened to him sing a few lines on Meat Loaf's 'Welcome To The Neighbourhood' album and it was good, too. Add this to the fact that Alice Cooper seems to respect him, and I'm going to tie them both. 1 point for each!
Dave - 4 Sammy - 2
Numbers. Despite Sammy's statements that his albums outsold Classic Van Halen, "looking at studio albums by lead singer, Van Halen with David Lee Roth sold 34 million albums. With Sammy Hagar they have sold 16 million and with Gary Cherone, 500,000."
Dave - 5 Sammy - 2
So, to sum it up, Sammy wins one and ties one, while Dave wins four and ties one. Guess Dave wins (again) but at least now the sheep know why.
I'll come over every now and then to read the replies (if any) but don't bother flaming me, as I won't reply to that kind of thing, unless it's REALLY funny.
Thank you for your time,
Good night.
Let's start with the obvious - who sings better. Many sheep say Sammy is a better singer. Well, I'll give you that. Sammy IS a better singer. He has more technique and a wider range, thus hitting many notes Dave probably couldn't.
Dave - 0 Sammy - 1
Live singing - Here, dave would get another bashing, since he can't seem to hit a note right live. However, he's never done playback either. Sammy has his own faults, too. By refusing to play Dave-era classics, he's not letting long time fans enjoy a proper VH concert, that is to say one with all the songs the fans like. He claims he doesn't like them, but to me the truth is he can't sing them as good as Dave. How, if he sings better? This is a natural phenomena. Look at Bruce Dickinson, for example. Easily one of the best voices around, and he can't sing any Paul Di'Anno songs properly. Sure, he's in key, but they don't sound half as good. But he DOES sing them, because he knows fans like them. Out of disrespect for his fans, Sammy gets flunked in this one.
Dave - 1 Sammy - 1
Stage presence. Since they're both frontmen, this also counts, obviously. You know I'm trying to say something good about Sammy here, but I just can't. This comparison isn't fair. Dave just wins, hands down!
Dave - 2 Sammy - 1
Van Halen years. Who has given more to Van Halen? Sammy was in 'For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge', a decent Van Halen album. It was the first time I listened to VH, and I must say I was impressed. However, I listened to other albums like 5150 and Balance, and suddenly I wasn't that impressed. This was BEFORE I listened anything Dave era!
Dave has given Van Halen 'Panama', 'Runnin' With The Devil', 'Little Guitars', 'Jump', 'Ice Cream Man', 'And The Cradle Will Rock', 'Hear About it Later', 'Unchained' and of course 'Ain't Talkin' 'Bout Love', among many others.
Most important, I haven't listened to any decent guitar sound in the Sammy era, apart from the FUCK album. And VH is nothing without the guitar, even you sheep must admit it.
Dave - 3 Sammy - 1
Solo careers. This is also important, since it is where the man is most defined as the artist he truly is. Dave continued, at first anyway, what he was doing with VH, later expanding into other hard rock venues with more or less success. Although he didn't give any real contribution to Music in this era, one cannot say that his career wasn't, at least, interesting.
Sammy's career was similar to Dave's in that he didn't get that much attention for it - Dave did only in the beginning, and only because he was still hot from VH. Quite frankly, I didn't hear any of his solo albums, as I'm quite disinterested of it, but I listened to him play 'Hound Dog' on the the guitar on an Elvis tribute concert, and it wasn't half bad. Plus, I listened to him sing a few lines on Meat Loaf's 'Welcome To The Neighbourhood' album and it was good, too. Add this to the fact that Alice Cooper seems to respect him, and I'm going to tie them both. 1 point for each!
Dave - 4 Sammy - 2
Numbers. Despite Sammy's statements that his albums outsold Classic Van Halen, "looking at studio albums by lead singer, Van Halen with David Lee Roth sold 34 million albums. With Sammy Hagar they have sold 16 million and with Gary Cherone, 500,000."
Dave - 5 Sammy - 2
So, to sum it up, Sammy wins one and ties one, while Dave wins four and ties one. Guess Dave wins (again) but at least now the sheep know why.
I'll come over every now and then to read the replies (if any) but don't bother flaming me, as I won't reply to that kind of thing, unless it's REALLY funny.
Thank you for your time,
Good night.
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