Excerpt 2 from "Bang Your Head" - 1980-6 continued

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  • academic punk
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    • Dec 2004
    • 4437

    Excerpt 2 from "Bang Your Head" - 1980-6 continued

    One day in 1982, Eddie got a call fro quincy Jones, who was producing the new Michael jackson album and asked Eddie to come down to the studio and play a solo for a song called "beat It". At the time, Roth was out of town on an excursion with a group of adventure seekers he organized called The Jungle Studs. Eddie agreed to come down to the studio, and nailed the solo in two takes, a job he did for free. Who would know? Little did anyone suspect that the album he contributed to, Thriller, would become the biggest selling album in history. Years after the fact, Roth claimed that if he had known about the Michael Jackson session, he wouldn't have had a problem with Eddie playing on it because he respected Quincy Jones. "Don't waste it on Gene Simmons or nicolette larson, "he wrote in his autobiography. Roth wasn't impressed with the guitarists performance on the Thriller album regardless. "What did Edward do with Michael Jackson?" he asked. "he played the same solo he's been playing in this band for ten years. Big fucking deal!"

    Van halen's last album with Roth, 1984, was an unprecedented triumph for the band. Ed had written the song "Jump" back in 1980 and wanted to record it then, but Roth repeatedly told him, "You're a guitar hero - no one wants to hear you play keyboards." But Eddie believed in the song and persevered.

    When Eddie was writing the 1984 album, he lied to the band, telling them he had writer's block. He claimed the only song he could come up with was "Jump", which forced them to include it on the album. "Jump" became the band's only #1 single and spent five weeks at the top of the charts. 1984 was a huge smash and ultimately sold more than seven million copies.

    With the success of 1984 and the "Jump" single, Van halen hit the road. When Roth entered the tour bus, if he discovered there were too many blondes on board, he'd order them off - he didn't want to compete with anyone else's hair. Supposedly, bands with blonde singers were banned from opening for Van Halen. Twisted Sister's Dee Snider even considered dying his hair for the slot. Autograph, whose singer was a redhead, was picked as the opening act.

    Roth also dictated that no wives were allowed on tour, though Eddie had been married to actress valerie bertinelli for three years. They met backstage at a gig in 1980 and married a year later. But Roth wanted Van Halen to keep up their playboy image. When Life magazine went on tour with the band for a feature story, Roth insisted that Bertinelli not accompany them. She stayed home, hurt by the snub. Roth often took cheap shots at Bertinelli in the press and compared her to David St. hubbins's fictional yoko-esque girlfriend in This Is Spinal Tap. According to Eddie, when vertinelli came backstage to meet him for the first time, Roth hit on her first but was rebuffed. Eddie also thought that Roth was jealous that he was dating an actress. Another possible explanation for Roth's dislike of Bertinelli is that se encouraged her husband to stand up to him. Roth bullied Eddie a lot, and Bertinelli felt he wanted to keep Eddie miserable so he could control him - not an unreasonable suspicion.

    After the 1984 tour, Roth put together a solo ep called Crazy From the Heat. The record was all cover tunes, which Roth loved to sing, and his video for "Just A Gigolo/I Ain't Got Nobody" became a huge hit on mtv. When Van Halen played the Monsters of Rock festival in 1984, Roth spent a lot of time with dio keyboardist Claude schnell. Schnell thought David was trying to put as much on his plate as possible. He never got the impression that Roth was going to jump ship. "He either didn't anticipate the success of the EP, or that it would cause the rift in the band that it did," says Schnell.

    Schnell felt a breakup with Van Halen was not only somehting Roth didn't foresee but something he didn't want. "I think David is a modest guy, if you can believe that. I don;'t think he considered himself a tremendous singer...and I think he knew damn well that his success rested on the shoulders of Van Halen, not the other way around.

    "When a band is at a stage that Van Halen was at that point, when a band has a #1 hit and a #1 album, egos are running wild. And a band's frontman typically has the biggest ego. There's no greater untapped resource than the ego of a musician, and typically that is true of frontmen.. But in Van Halen, who was the frontman? avid or Eddie?"

    From Bang Your Head, copyright 2002
  • DlocRoth
    ROCKSTAR

    • Jan 2004
    • 5521

    #2
    Cool!

    Thanx. 5 stars.
    Fuck Scott Weiland. Fucking asshole. I get trashed all the time and still go to work. And my job sucks ass. -ODShowtime

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    • DLR7884
      ROCKSTAR

      • Jan 2004
      • 5895

      #3
      1984 sold 10 million copies, not 7.

      DLR7884
      Cool article, thanks!
      Originally Posted by WARF:
      DLR7884 - This guy is one bad ass sonafabitch... I've seen him destroy peoples posting careers in a single sentence.

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      • academic punk
        Full Member Status

        • Dec 2004
        • 4437

        #4
        Originally posted by DLR7884
        1984 sold 10 million copies, not 7.

        DLR7884
        Cool article, thanks!

        The book was published several years ago, so the info was a little old.


        It's overall a really good book, well written, comprehensive, well-researched.

        I'll post other Dave/ VH sctions as I get the time.

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        • DLR7884
          ROCKSTAR

          • Jan 2004
          • 5895

          #5
          Originally posted by academic punk
          The book was published several years ago, so the info was a little old.
          2002....They received the "Diamond" award in 2000 or 2001.

          DLR7884
          Not a big deal though.
          Originally Posted by WARF:
          DLR7884 - This guy is one bad ass sonafabitch... I've seen him destroy peoples posting careers in a single sentence.

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          • RogueHorseman
            Commando
            • Apr 2004
            • 1298

            #6
            Originally posted by academic punk
            It's overall a really good book, well written, comprehensive, well-researched...
            Sure.............., just as long as one overlooks the bias, conjecture, half-truths and opinions presented as fact.

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            • academic punk
              Full Member Status

              • Dec 2004
              • 4437

              #7
              hahahaha

              It actually has a bibliogrpahy with the sources.

              I'm just reprinting what it says. Don't kill me, I'm just the messesger!

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              • RogueHorseman
                Commando
                • Apr 2004
                • 1298

                #8
                Originally posted by academic punk
                hahahaha

                It actually has a bibliogrpahy with the sources.

                I'm just reprinting what it says. Don't kill me, I'm just the messesger!
                Catus Jack sez, bang! bang!

                LOL...

                It is an interesting read, very much so, but obviously the sources were anything but "trusted" to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
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                • RogueHorseman
                  Commando
                  • Apr 2004
                  • 1298

                  #9
                  Smoke a cigarette
                  An' I know I've had enough
                  Mash whiskey in another paper cup
                  Didn't know it, babe
                  But yo cup was runnin' over
                  Never time to do it right
                  But it's time to do it over
                  And I lay awake
                  Big dreamers never sleep (No they don't)
                  Time to play the cards
                  Read 'em and weep
                  Well I, I always heard it said
                  That the truth will set you free
                  Woman with the way you do
                  Well how can I believe?
                  A smokin' mountain got to blow
                  I'm the livin' proof

                  Well, right now I think it's time
                  To Tell the Truth, baby
                  (Time to tell the truth)
                  Yeah, you got to try
                  Stop lying baby
                  (Time to tell the truth)

                  Doin' time behind these bedroom walls
                  Blink of an eye another shooting star falls, yeah
                  Tried to tell you babe
                  But you don't want to hear me
                  Take one good look
                  These are tears of fury
                  Well, then let it show
                  A big catastrophe, yeah yeah
                  Now I don't wanna know
                  Your social activities
                  If the world loves a bad guy
                  Well, then, how 'bout the doubt
                  I was first one to get in
                  Now I'm the last one out
                  Profess to love me, babe
                  Then, why can't I tell?
                  All you do is use me babe
                  You're lying to yourself

                  I think it's time...
                  (Time to tell the truth)
                  Time to tell the truth now now
                  Stop lying baby
                  (Time to tell the truth)
                  Time to tell the truth now, all right

                  Mama please
                  Baby please
                  If the world loves a bad guy
                  Well, then, how 'bout the doubt
                  Well, I was first one to get in
                  Now I'm the last one out
                  Smokin' mountain got to blow
                  I'm the livin' proof

                  And now I know it's time
                  Yes it is
                  Try
                  Yeah, got to try, try
                  (Time to tell the truth)
                  Yeah, tell the truth now
                  (Time to tell the truth)
                  Stop lying baby
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                  • academic punk
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                    • Dec 2004
                    • 4437

                    #10
                    There happens to be one hilarious bit where Ozzy is discussing metal's fashion sense in the 80s and how gay people would walk up to him and go, "What the fuck are you DOING, man???"

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                    • Figs
                      Crazy Ass Mofo
                      • Jun 2004
                      • 2945

                      #11
                      Thank you for the excerpt, Mr. Punk.

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                      • RogueHorseman
                        Commando
                        • Apr 2004
                        • 1298

                        #12
                        Originally posted by academic punk
                        There happens to be one hilarious bit where Ozzy is discussing metal's fashion sense in the 80s and how gay people would walk up to him and go, "What the fuck are you DOING, man???"
                        Now dat raght dare is funnie, I don't care who ya R... daaats raaaght...
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                        • SammySucks1984
                          Head Fluffer
                          • Feb 2005
                          • 396

                          #13
                          That solo in that song was an amazing piece of music
                          Why do women need driver's Licenses? there aren't many roads between the bedroom and the kitchen.

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                          • degüello
                            Sniper
                            • Mar 2004
                            • 859

                            #14
                            That's a really good read, Bang Your Head. I fucking couldn't put it down the first time I read it. Even read it a second time, a while later.
                            "What we've been doing, which is great and certainly cost saving, is I train in the sand pit in McDonald's. I do a few laps. I go through the tunnel a few times. The kids don't mind if I smoke. Plus, when I'm done, lunch is right there."- DLR 2003

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                            • degüello
                              Sniper
                              • Mar 2004
                              • 859

                              #15
                              Although, some of the VH sections will piss folks off, guaranteed.
                              "What we've been doing, which is great and certainly cost saving, is I train in the sand pit in McDonald's. I do a few laps. I go through the tunnel a few times. The kids don't mind if I smoke. Plus, when I'm done, lunch is right there."- DLR 2003

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