Don't be fooled. Ed doesn't call the shots.......Alex is the boss.

[cwsmith17]

Ed was the guitar prodigy, but the real busines of "hiring and firing" came from the dark depths of Alex. He sat "behind the scenes" and knew every dynamic of the band. From day one he could not stand David Lee Roth because of hie "over the top" attitude and dimeanor. Ed was the spokesperson, but don't be fooled Alex was the persuading force behind Ed's motives. He fired Dave, hired Sam, fired Sam, hired Gary, fired Gary and rehired Sam. The problem can not lie with three different singers it must be the Van Halen boys. It's obvious.

[Nitro Express]

Dave was not fired from Van Halen, Dave left Van Halen. I think Dave was estatic over the huge success of the 1984 album and tour. The iron was hot and Dave wanted to continue smashing it. When the Van Halens didn't want to take advantage of the publicity, Dave put out his solo album "Crazy From The Heat" and released his famouse "California Girls' video. Dave who is very "live in the moment" ran with it.

I think it made the Van Halens; especially Alex jelouse and I think that reinforced it to Dave, he was tired putting up with the bullshit and he clearly was popular without Van Halen at the time so he quit.

I've been trying to understand the Van Halen brothers for years and I've just decided they are two women. Totally impossible to understand.

[nosuchluck]

you might be onto something...

[academic punk]

NO.

Ed has as much - if not more - to do with who is singing in the band. Remember the 96 fiasco?

Ed was the one who invited Dave down to the studio. Ed was the one who said let's get you on a couple of new tracks for the greatest hits. Al had no knowledge about any of this.

Al only found out when he showed up at the studio one day and saw Dave and Ed sitting there together.

The Sammy connection was through Sammy's and Ed's mutual race-car teacher (or something). So, again, Ed.

As to Gary, he was liivng at Ed's for a while while recording VH3. If Ed wants to work with someone, he does. if he doesn't, it's ultimately never going to happen, regardless of what anyone says.

[nosuchluck]

you might be onto something...

[Anonymous]

They might be onto something...

Cheers! :bottle:

[Carmine]

Originally posted by nosuchluck
you might be onto something...

LOL...I think YOU are on something! :D

...or you may have a point!

[Big Troubles]

Originally posted by academic punk

Al only found out when he showed up at the studio one day and saw Dave and Ed sitting there together.

exactly. and what happened after that. good-bye Dave. Hello Gary.

[BIG GOOSE]

Originally posted by academic punk

Al only found out when he showed up at the studio one day and saw Dave and Ed sitting there together.

Fuck I would've loved to see a photo of Shemp's face the second he walked into that room.PRICELESS

[ALinChainz]

This thread is onto something.


(Sorry, had to)

:D

[Warham]

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[nosuchluck]

Originally posted by Carmine Raguzza.
LOL...I think YOU are on something! :D

...or you may have a point!

oh no...they're onto me!!

[Panamark]

Originally posted by BIG GOOSE
Fuck I would've loved to see a photo of Shemp's face the second he walked into that room.PRICELESS

Add me to that list !!

[Terry]

Ed and Al took control of the band AFTER Dave quit in 1985. Think it was pretty much Ed and Dave who were responsible for the decision-making prior to that split.

Dave wasn't fired from Van Halen in 1985. Don't know how that got started, although it is perpetuated by lazy music journalists who can't be bothered to check the facts.

Ed contacted Roth in 1996, THEN sacked Sammy shortly thereafter. Gary was hired in August. VMAs with Roth in September. Roth's open letter in October. Far as I can make out, nobody from Van Halen or VH management even told Roth in 1996 that he was fired. They just didn't bother contacting him after the VMAs, and only responded after he put out his press release. It took Roth's letter to goad Van Halen into letting the rest of us know what the fuck was going on.

Alex is the boss now. Yep, he's calling the shots for a band that has no record label, no singer, no future, and won't even put out product under the Van Halen name that somebody would want to buy (classic live video).

I wouldn't even hire Alex to manage a hotdog cart at a baseball stadium for me. He'd end up selling tofu dogs while trying to convince people they're just as good as ballpark franks and put me outta business.

[Warham]

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