....the one thing I hate about DLR.

[DavidLeeBroth]

Originally posted by Matt White
Try reading "CRAZY FROM THE HEAT"....then get back to us.

I have. But it's over a decade old. A lot of things can change in a decade including a musicians career.

[Matt White]

Originally posted by DavidLeeBroth
I have. But it's over a decade old. A lot of things can change in a decade including a musicians career.

He's operated under the same philosophy his entire career.

[DavidLeeBroth]

Originally posted by Matt White
He's operated under the same philosophy his entire career.

I mean it's easy to not care about things when you have a career and loads of money. I just don't think that Dave is a position today to not care about sales or attendance like so many of you claim. He has bills to pay like everyone else.

He cared enough to sue the band for royalties didn't he?

[zeronumber]

Meh, some of what he says is true though. A lot of time, people just try to excuse everything dave does wrong by saying "It's dave"

Fact of the matter is, there is no excuse for not posting tour dates. Your fans want to see you, and are willing to pay good money to do so, why then spit in their face and not even annouce when you're going on tour?

Like I said, I like the toastmaster...but damn, update and develop the freakin site, or at least call this site the offical site, since this site actually posts news, dates, and hosts media and forums.

[Matt White]

Originally posted by DavidLeeBroth
I mean it's easy to not care about things when you have a career and loads of money. I just don't think that Dave is a position today to not care about sales or attendance like so many of you claim. He has bills to pay like everyone else.

He cared enough to sue the band for royalties didn't he?

So lets get this straight........

We're all delusional......

DAVE's hit........

You don't get it.......


Why you here? Just to get a rise?
Wouldn't you be better suited to the VHLINKS or The Spambo boards?!?

Or.......possibly....You know the score....

THE ROTH ARMY RULES

just "curious" myself.

[bueno bob]

Originally posted by DavidLeeBroth
I mean it's easy to not care about things when you have a career and loads of money. I just don't think that Dave is a position today to not care about sales or attendance like so many of you claim. He has bills to pay like everyone else.

He cared enough to sue the band for royalties didn't he?

It was more on principal than on a monetary note. Even if you had billions of dollars, you'd still be interested in getting a 25% cut of your work, right? Even if you didn't necessarily need it?

Trust me, David's got money enough. Sure, he needs to make a living, and yeah, that's why he does shows, but he doesn't need to make a living doing it per se, he's already done that...every time somebody hears Van Hagar on the radio (which is less and less frequently daily), he sells another CVH record anyway. Same with when somebody hears real Van Halen on the radio. In the advent of downloading, that's not as prevailing a rule as it used to be, but the market's still out there that gets the hankering to hear "Van Halen" or "1984" and realizes that they don't have the CD in the car and, hey, there's a Wherehouse Records right on the next block...

In case you missed it, he's a diverse guy - he's got his fingers into a lot of pies and his music career isn't the sole aspect of his existence anymore.

[DavidLeeBroth]

Originally posted by bueno bob
It was more on principal than on a monetary note. Even if you had billions of dollars, you'd still be interested in getting a 25% cut of your work, right? Even if you didn't necessarily need it?

Trust me, David's got money enough. Sure, he needs to make a living, and yeah, that's why he does shows, but he doesn't need to make a living doing it per se, he's already done that...every time somebody hears Van Hagar on the radio (which is less and less frequently daily), he sells another CVH record anyway. Same with when somebody hears real Van Halen on the radio. In the advent of downloading, that's not as prevailing a rule as it used to be, but the market's still out there that gets the hankering to hear "Van Halen" or "1984" and realizes that they don't have the CD in the car and, hey, there's a Wherehouse Records right on the next block...

In case you missed it, he's a diverse guy - he's got his fingers into a lot of pies and his music career isn't the sole aspect of his existence anymore.

I agree with you 100%. My point is that using the "he doesn't care" line regarding album sales, media coverage or tickets is bullshit.

Does anyone think he wouldn’t play for 10.000 people every show if he could? Don’t you think he’d want to sell millions of albums if he could. Why on earth should he not care? Why would any musician with any kind of ambition release an album and not follow it up with all possible means if it were so easy for him.

He wouldn’t. Of course he cares.

[Matt White]

And the answer to my question.....???

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by DavidLeeBroth
Because he could be making tons of money??? How would he do that? How would Dave go on tour (differently than today) and make tons of money? Please tell me. I'm curious.

I didn't know I listed making tons of money as an option, although obviously I think I already answered that by saying if he were to play more shows, or sign on with one or more of the 80's nostalgia acts, he obviously could be making a little bit more scratch, though he's not going to fill auditoriums alone at this point. See the "SAM & DAVE" tour figures for more information.

And how the fuck do you know that he does what he wants? How do you even know what he wants? You don't know him.

I don't know him? C'mon, we do lunchy twice a week.

Thank you SHERLOCK, but again, your projecting your bullshit onto my posts. I never claimed to know DAVE's inner-life. It's called speculation, and it's key for message board posting. But obviously, there is a bit of evidence that you latched on to (as evidenced with "Probably not though" statement) to ponder. I seriously doubt DAVE is hurting for cash, though I have no figures of his personal fortune and have heard little in regards to it other than he saved a lot in the early days by a frugal life and apartment living, while not on tour, and that he has invested wisely.

For all you know he could be desperate for cash and crying over low sales. (Probably not though).

I doubt it. His career is nothing to be ashamed of. Could it have been more with some better decisions on his part, I think it could have been both with VAN HALEN and with the EUAS Band. But he's made more dough and has had more hits than either of us, which beckons; "it is better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all?" I think so in his case. Simply put, if he we4re hurting for cash, he'd be at every co. and state fairground he could. And then I'd get to see him at the nations largest one. But alas, he only plays a limited number of dates each summer for whatever reason.

[DavidLeeBroth]

Originally posted by Matt White
And the answer to my question.....???

Sorry...

1. Why you here? Because I like a lot of this site. I'm a fan of CVH and DLR.

2. Just to get a rise? No. I go to pornographic sites for that purpose.

3. Wouldn't you be better suited to the VHLINKS or The Spambo boards?!? No. I'm no particular Spammy fan.

[zeronumber]

People, can we please get back on topic please. Let's concentrate on websites and tour dates, and not speculate about Dave's checking account.

[DavidLeeBroth]

Originally posted by Nickdfresh
I doubt it. His career is nothing to be ashamed of.

No it's not. That is not what I'm saying. He's in fact had a great career which he and his fans can be proud of. You're missing my point. I'm not dissing Dave. I'm dissing some of his delusional fans.

[Matt White]

Well then.....

rather than falling over yourself to be the self appointed "Devil's advocate", try posting something of substance.......

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by zeronumber
Meh, some of what he says is true though. A lot of time, people just try to excuse everything dave does wrong by saying "It's dave"

Fact of the matter is, there is no excuse for not posting tour dates. Your fans want to see you, and are willing to pay good money to do so, why then spit in their face and not even annouce when you're going on tour?

Like I said, I like the toastmaster...but damn, update and develop the freakin site, or at least call this site the offical site, since this site actually posts news, dates, and hosts media and forums.

I agree 100%. He should do more to commune with his fans and to be more accessible with dates, plans, etc. But after all is said and done, he owes us nothing more than what we have bought.

But it shows that he doesn't really care that much in regards to how well his shows are advertised. (Though he fucking well should!)

He does care, I've never said he doesn't to the extent that I sure he would prefer to be making hits and selling out hockey halls. But the fact that he knows he's only going to attract diehard fans and some just looking for any kind of rock at their summer festival shows that he isn't under any illusions. He's probably not making that much touring other than his equivalent of beer money.

[Apollo]

Originally posted by Nickdfresh

... I seriously doubt DAVE is hurting for cash, though I have no figures of his personal fortune and have heard little in regards to it other than he saved a lot in the early days by a frugal life and apartment living, while not on tour, and that he has invested wisely.

Of course he has. He's Jewish ain't he?