Why would you PAY to see Eddie Van Halen???

[JCOOK]

WHY WOUL YOU PAY TO SEE ED?

YOU ARE CORRECT SIR. THE ONLY REASON TO PAY TO SEE THIS CRAP
IS THAT MIGHT BE THE LAST TIME. I'VE GOT TWO WORD FOR EDWARD

THE BEATLES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[L.S.D.]

Originally posted by JCOOK
YOU ARE CORRECT SIR. THE ONLY REASON TO PAY TO SEE THIS CRAP
IS THAT MIGHT BE THE LAST TIME. I'VE GOT TWO WORD FOR EDWARD

THE BEATLES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

what?

[ELVIS]

Hmmm...

My gut feeling is that when MWM and CGTSNM were recorded.. Edward strived for a heavier early Van Halen sound.. and achieved it quite nicely...

I don't think it matters when they were written or how.. but I do believe the chemistry was there in the sense that Ed knew Dave would be on the tracks and he reacted accordingly...

[Big Troubles]

Ed definatley tuned down for the songs, you can hear the difference in the guitar work. And thats on both tracks. So this tells me that the music was probably finished before Dave was involved, but Ed decided to tune down for Daves vocals. When you compare his guitar to previous Sam crap anyways. And I do remember a part in Dave's book, where he mention he wanted deeper meaning lyrics in one of those songs, but Ed was against it. Dave wanted to do something ala Everybody wants Some; with the "you cant get romantic in a subway line, conductor dont like it says your wasting your time". In other words, hard lyrics to figure out. Deeper meaning...Ed just wanted the lyrics simple and easy. Probably to get as much publicity, and garner radio spots. Edwards has been about money since the band commercialized themselves, overly, in 1985. That was apparently when Dave knew this was never gonna work out.
I wonder what happened in 2000 to make them change their minds about working together again?

[ELVIS]

I was referring to Edwards guitar tone as well.. much heavier than anything found with Van Hagar...

[Big Troubles]

I prefer the browner sound compared to his work with samuel. I found that when he tuned up, he was just compensating for hagar's lack of range. when you tune down to get to play the highs very high to match the screams. With sam he was all monotone, so by tuning up, your treble-ling your tone.

Did I just repeat myself like 3 times in a row? lol must be the green stuff. Thank god its Easter this weekend. Let out some steam. :D

[Dave's PA Rental]

Originally posted by L.S.D.
Youre telling me Eddie CANT play like he did in the dlr era? Choose your words better, if you say he DOESNT play like that anymore, than it could be argued. But why would ed not be able to anymore? Doesnt make sense.

Why doesnt Michael Jordan play basketball anymore? Why is this Arnold Palmer's last Masters? Why isnt Gretzky playing anymore? You know why, fella? Its because skills deminish as you get older. Stupid.

Now im not saying that Eddie would magically get those skills back if Dave re-joined the band, but there was a synergy when Dave sang with Michael Anthony and the Van Halens.

And because you are a stupid fuck, I will tell you what 'synergy' means:
"The interaction of two or more agents or forces so that their combined effect is greater than the sum of their individual parts"

I know, I know...you already knew what that word meant...

Go away you little yip-dog.

[ZahZoo]

Originally posted by pardo
Zahzoo, who asked for your resume?

And you're wrong, the music for those 2 tunes were recorded while Dave was in the studio. Yeah, they had the music for CGTSNM when Sammie was around (not sure about MWM). But its a fact that they recorded them when Dave was around.

Some ingredients work well together. I think Daves voice and Eds guitar make a good mix. A very good mix! And I don't think its a coincedence that Ed sounds VERY inspired on those 2 tunes.

No one asked for a resume... I felt like qualifying my position rather than just talking out my ass, as has been prevalent here lately.

I just don't hear the inspiration or a significant change in Ed's guitar work in the two tracks on BOV1 w/ Dave. Ed basically pulled out about a dozen working songs and nothing really worked for Dave. They went back to the two that eventually became MWM and CGTSNM. Ed complimented Dave on how much of a trooper he was and really had to work hard to make those songs work for him. The rhthym structures and the solos in both we're pretty average for Ed during the period those songs were produced. About the most different thing there was the Talk-Box effect thrown in.

You do make an undisputable point... Dave's voice and Ed's guitar sound do make a good mix. No doubt about that!!

[Dave's PA Rental]

I'll take ZahZoo's resume anyday!

Dont fucking badmouth a dude who was at Day On The Green in 1978!

THAT is old-school, kids.

[ZahZoo]

Originally posted by ELVIS
I was referring to Edwards guitar tone as well.. much heavier than anything found with Van Hagar...

I agree and if my ears don't decieve me I'd say Ed probably rolled a Marshall or two into the studio when the masters were laid down for those tracks. On thing the songs lack is the high gain signiture of the 5150 amps. Comparing the tonal aspects MWM & CGTSNM don't sound like they were recorded on the same equipment as Humans Being.

[ELVIS]

Hmmm...

I'm a guitarist too.. and I do hear a guitar sound that is unlike what we had come to expect from Van Hagar...

Sure the songs are average Ed, but I think he gave 110% on execution due to Dave...

[ELVIS]

Originally posted by ZahZoo
I agree and if my ears don't decieve me I'd say Ed probably rolled a Marshall or two into the studio when the masters were laid down for those tracks.

You speak with the voice and ears of reason...

[pete]

Originally posted by ZahZoo
No one asked for a resume... I felt like qualifying my position rather than just talking out my ass, as has been prevalent here lately.

I just don't hear the inspiration or a significant change in Ed's guitar work in the two tracks on BOV1 w/ Dave. Ed basically pulled out about a dozen working songs and nothing really worked for Dave. They went back to the two that eventually became MWM and CGTSNM. Ed complimented Dave on how much of a trooper he was and really had to work hard to make those songs work for him. The rhthym structures and the solos in both we're pretty average for Ed during the period those songs were produced. About the most different thing there was the Talk-Box effect thrown in.

You do make an undisputable point... Dave's voice and Ed's guitar sound do make a good mix. No doubt about that!!

well you've obvioulsly been around long enough to appreciate Van Hagar's Easy listening approach.

And the complex melodicitiy of Kenny G.

[TMR]

Originally posted by pete
well you've obvioulsly been around long enough to appreciate Van Hagar's Easy listening approach.

And the complex melodicitiy of Kenny G.

LOL......I wouldn't doubt it!