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  • Matt White
    • Jun 2004
    • 20569

    1984 by Malcolm Dome

    From CLASSIC ROCK Issue #64 March 2004

    For those who missed it the first time around.......


    It was VANCOUVER, MAY 1984, and VAN HALEN were in town One of the biggest bands in the world; their commercial powers, it would seem, having reached hithero uncharted heights. A moment in history. Yet also a somewhat surprising turning point: not so much the triumph of the band as the dominance of an individual. It was here that I first realized Van Halen simply could not go forward as they were, because DAVID LEE ROTH was effortlessly casting a shadow over their future.

    I was in town to spend some time with Swiss cuckoos Krokus as they worked with producer Bruce Fairbairn on their new album "The Blitz". I was on assignment for KERRANG! which of itself meant there was a problem when the Krokus caucus mentioned that we were all going to see VAN HALEN on May 1st at the Pacific Coliseum. Why? Kerrang! had just published a gossipy, throwaway story of DAVID LEE ROTH's alleged antics with Alex Van Halen's wife on the latter's wedding night, and how Eddie Van Halen had mistakenly thought we'd been referring to shenanigans between Diamond Dave and his own wife, and...well, the whole thing got messy, leading to reports reaching then Kerrang! editor Geoff Barton that ANY Van Halen welcome for Kerrang! could certainly be warm---too warm.

    So I shuffled along to the show, disguised in the office executive beard and shades, hoping the "K" word wouldn't pass anyone's lips in the wrong company. BUt by the end of the night, that was the last thing on my mind. I was simply stunned by two things: firstly, the astonishing, hysterical reaction VAN HALEN received from the 20,000 crazy Canadians. And, secondly, how Van HAlen live had become the all-singing, all-dancing DAVID LEE ROTH circus. On stage, Diamond Dave dominated, as the other band members shrank ever more into the background. PArt Chaplin, part Nureyev, part Elvis, part BUgs Bunny, Roth left everyone dumbfounded with his charisma, control, energy and nerve. It was, I mumbled to Krokus vocalist Marc Storace, as if we'd just witnessed a DAVID LEE ROTH solo performance. We were heading backstage at the time, both of us all too aware that walls have ears, as do attentive security hogs, so we were careful not to voice such opinions too vociferously for fear of upsetting the Van Halen brothers and bassist michael Anthony, the other three quarters of the band who, that fateful evening, seemed to represent only about 20% of the whole.

    But if what had paraded on stage was effectively an ersatz band, that was nothing when compared to the sight that greeted us backstage. IN what had been designated a "party zone", Roth had set up speakers in each corner of the room and was acting as MC, DJ, barman and general Bon Viveur. Roth chose the music---which proved to be a broad cross-section of sounds old nad new---and was loudly demanding everyone's attention. Scantily-clad young ladies flossed in and out of the room; before being whisked off into a far-flung corner. Drinks were flowing at a frightening rate, with bottles of Jack Daniel's being knocked back as if a flotilla of thirsty vampires had just discovered bourbon was a damned sight better for the complextion than rhesus negative. And through it all, Roth simply did what he did(what he does?) best: commandeered the spotlight. The man was an in-your-face persona on stilts in a room full of shy, retiring metaphorical dwarves.


    So far, so predictable. But this was far from a happy camp. Drummer Alex Van Halen wasn't anywhere to be seen; he never even made a fleeting diplomatic appearance. Micheal Anthony came into the room for all of 30 seconds, flashing a smile that was about as sunny as Bolton on a January afternoon. And Eddie Van Halen sat in one corner, huddled over a drink of indeterminate vintage, while occasionally muttering to band manager Noel Monk. Was this really a band that had just taken the mainstream by the seat of its pants and given it a severe hard rocking? Why was it that only Roth looked as if he was having a ball?(and after all, I suppose it was his ball.)

    After about 45 minutes of watching the Roth cavalcade in full swing, I ambled nonchalantly over (well, as nonchalantly as one can when backstage with a band whose very name dripped with gold and platinum discs) and talked briefly to Eddie Van Halen. The conversation went something like this:

    "Hello Eddie. You must be pleased with tonight's show?"

    "Yeah."

    "Great crowd reaction."

    "hmmmm."

    "Interesting stage set."

    Shrug of the shoulders.

    "Are you coming over to tour the UK this time?"

    "Dunno. Depends on the "walking ego"..."

    At this point Noel Monk jumped into the conversation, fully aware that the "walking ego" description was aimed in Roth's direction and anxious to deflect any damage; it was tantamount to washing dirty spandex in a very public situation. But Eddie's comment was the only time in this rather one-sided 'chat' that the guitarist had been anything other than indifferent. And it immediately cemented my belief that here was a band on the verge of a seismic split. Soon after, Eddie made his excuses and left the party."


    Stay tuned.......

    To be continued........very soon.........
  • PHOENIX
    Veteran
    • Jan 2004
    • 2212

    #2
    Good stuff. Give us more!

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    • Diamondjimi
      DIAMOND STATUS
      • May 2004
      • 12086

      #3
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      • Diamondjimi
        DIAMOND STATUS
        • May 2004
        • 12086

        #4
        Re: 1984 by Malcolm Dome

        Originally posted by Matt White
        From CLASSIC ROCK Issue #64 March 2004

        Drinks were flowing at a frightening rate, with bottles of Jack Daniel's being knocked back as if a flotilla of thirsty vampires had just discovered bourbon was a damned sight better for the complextion than rhesus negative. And through it all, Roth simply did what he did(what he does?) best: commandeered the spotlight. The man was an in-your-face persona on stilts in a room full of shy, retiring metaphorical dwarves. [/I]


        Fuckin right !
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        • Diamondjimi
          DIAMOND STATUS
          • May 2004
          • 12086

          #5
          Looks like Ed is laughing at the bass players hair !
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          • Matt White
            • Jun 2004
            • 20569

            #6
            okay....round 2:


            Now here's where it gets a little conspiratorial. By now, only DAVE was left to entertain the mixed throng of hangers-on, groupies, record company types, the media, and Krokus. Presumably the others had vacated the building? But no.

            Outside in the lengthy corridor that led out of the venue and into reality, four limos were lined up, one for each member of VAN HALEN. I'd wandered out into this area looking for a loo, and surmised with a keen sense of deduction that, as the cars were still there the other members of the band must still be on the premises. So where were they? And it was possible they were having a clandestine meeting sans DLR, because they'd reached the end of their tether with the singer? I don't pretend to know the answer, but the vibe from Eddie Van Halen suggested that Vancouver had proved to be a turning point in the band's relationship with Roth.

            Did the vocalist care? Not a bit. Back in the party zone he seemed oblivious to any cloak-and -dagger tactics possibly being adopted by the others. And if anyone thought he was just a mouthy buffoon stewing in his own arrogance, then they were badly underestimating him.

            With hindsight, it was clear that DAVE had already marked out those members of the VAN HALEN circle he believed he could trust and who would form part of his inner enclave. bodyguards, assistants, roadies...the ones with him that night who weren't treating him as the singer with VAN HALEN but as DAVID LEE ROTH, a circus ringmaster supreme. Wether deliberately or not, Roth was definitely making moves toward separating himself from the Van Halen pack.

            As had been the case ever since the band first burst on the scene some six years previously, Roth was the man making decisions. And if the lifespan of VAN HALEN with him at the helm was about to expire, then that was because he'd decided to move on.

            Of course, as we all know, the "1984 album" and tour was to be the band's last with Roth. He used his subsequent debut solo record, the "Crazy From the Heat: EP, to distance himself from the mothership and go out on his own, looking to further his career both as a musician and entertainer. For a while Roth totally outflanked his erstwhile bandmates, as his garish videos and mega-watt personality promised to launch him on Hollywood.

            The rest is history, and chronicles a steady decline for the man who should have been king of all he surveyed. BUt failure was definitely not on the menu back in that May day two decades ago. Back in that Vancouver "party room" Roth didn't so much as grab your attention as grab it, shake it up and then toss it aside in favor of another plaything.

            But that was DAVID LEE ROTH: a man who never entered a room when he could just gust through it like a tornado that never blew itself out. And be sure of one thing, if my retrospective theorising about the state of VAN HALEN back then is correct: it was DAVE who manipulated the situation, not the others.

            Yes, it was Roth's game. HE decided when it it was time to change the rules."


            Okay...just a couple of thoughts of my own.....

            This guy was obliviously unaware of the chronic substance abuse by the sisters, and it's affect on the band.

            Also...the part about sizeing up who was gonna go with DAVE when he split....

            The ENTIRE VAN HALEN organization, except for AVH's drum roadie, went with DAVE. ALL the : Roadies, assistants, truckdrivers, gaffers, secretaries, lawyers, etc.....even EVH's guitar roadie went with DAVE.

            DAVE "manipulated the situation"? DAMN STRAIGHT.......cuz he's the man, and it was/is easy to see 99% of the VAN HALEN FAMILY knew it as well.


            And...lastly....a CLASSIC DAVE pic....seems the ladies in the audience kinda dig his chaps......Just so the next time some SHEEP Basturd wants to try and have fun at the Diamonds expense.....You WISH you were him you fucking weasels!!!!!

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            • fret_buzz_blues
              Head Fluffer
              • May 2005
              • 375

              #7
              Oh yeah! :D Nice picture there!
              <img src="http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y214/screwthesisters/del2.jpg" alt="Image hosted by Photobucket.com">
              "So there, I am, in Sri Lanka, formerly Ceylon, at about 3 o'clock in the morning, looking for one thousand brown M&Ms to fill a brandy glass, or Ozzy wouldn't go on stage that night. So, Jeff Beck pops his head 'round the door, and mentions there's a little sweets shop on the edge of town. So - we go. And - it's closed. So there's me, and Keith Moon, and David Crosby, breaking into that little sweets shop, eh. Well, instead of a guard dog, they've got this bloody great big bengal tiger. I managed to take out the tiger with a can of mace, but the shopkeeper and his son... that's a different story altogether. I had to beat them to death with their own shoes...Nasty business, really, but sure enough I got the M&Ms, and Ozzy went on stage and did a great show..."

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              • fryingdutchman
                Full Member Status

                • Feb 2005
                • 4133

                #8
                Great shit Matt!

                Thanks for posting.
                Originally posted by perilouspete
                fryingdutchman you pretty much own everyone.....sick comebacks, well put. top class wit.

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                • jero
                  Crazy Ass Mofo
                  • Jan 2004
                  • 2927

                  #9
                  Super read! Thanks bro

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                  • Coyote
                    ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 8185

                    #10
                    Look at Al in the pic. Is it just me, or would he rather be the guitarist?
                    Why settle for something you have, if it's not as good as something you're out to get?

                    Originally posted by Seshmeister
                    It's like putting up a YouTube of Bach and playing Chopstix on your Bontempi...

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                    • ELVIS
                      Banned
                      • Dec 2003
                      • 44120

                      #11
                      I didn't think it was all that grate...


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                      • Millermoos
                        Head Fluffer
                        • Aug 2005
                        • 309

                        #12
                        I didn't know that most of the people went with Dave.
                        I enjoyed reading it.
                        Millermoos

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                        • stilleddiesangel
                          Sniper
                          • Oct 2004
                          • 843

                          #13
                          Malcolm Dome is a HUGE Dave fan. Interesting stuff.

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                          • Terry
                            DIAMOND STATUS
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 12123

                            #14
                            Kinda lends creedence to what Dave said about Ed having never been able to enjoy five minutes of his success; shit, the guy was on top of the world in 1984, yet still manages to find something (Roth, the 'walking ego') to bitch about.
                            Scramby eggs and bacon.

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                            • Hardrock69
                              DIAMOND STATUS
                              • Feb 2005
                              • 21897

                              #15
                              Well, in every interview with people I have read about their dealings with Edward The Drunk MAN there are always situations like that.

                              Fucking Ed crying like a baby because he does not know how to mix a great sounding record.

                              Ed depressed and crying because he wins Guitarist Of The Year award 5 times in a row (which Val thought was cute).

                              Always Ed stating "I don't deserve all this fame & glory", and bitching and moaning about Dave.

                              If Ed had any sense whatsoever, he would have become the Yin to Dave's Yang.

                              Lookit Tyler & Perry, Plant & Page, Jagger & Richards, etc.

                              Ed is such a depressed, jealous, insecure fuck that he totally destroyed the band that was named after him!

                              If he had one lick of sense he would have hung with Dave, and it might have been "Dave & Ed" holding court in the party room and being the life of the party.

                              But nooooo....it is Ed the loser sitting in a corner bitching about Mr. Ego.

                              At least Uncle Dave can walk the walk, and can hold his head high, knowing that his career was one of integrity, doing things on his own terms.

                              Unlike Ed The Drunk, who sold out, greedily sucking the Corporate Cock, and then begging to get fucked in the ass by Warner Bros., until even THEY got tired of his stupidity.

                              He ran off Dave with his negativity, Then Spambo The Flatulent, Then Gary, Then Dave AGAIN, then Spambo AGAIN.

                              Why the fuck doesn't he just put himself out of his own misery and do like Kurt Kabang? Then he would be a legend even more so.

                              And even he would admit he would then be in a better place and would not be suffering so much.
                              Last edited by Hardrock69; 10-20-2005, 11:03 AM.

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