OK gang, tell me what I should think!

[Lou]

OK educate me, what am I wrong about. I want to hear the truth from the REAL fans, the people who grew up with VH. Because we all know that it takes a special talent to do that, to have been born in the '50s, '60s, or early '70s, we all know we can control when we're born and I willfully chose to be born in 1981.

Here is what I believe:

Van HALEN is superior to Van Hagar, end of story.
Van HALEN incorporated so many elements--Eddie's musicianship, but on the other end of the spectrum, Dave's wit, humor, and grace. This is the "fire and ice" combination that made Van Halen explosive.
Van Hagar was all about Eddie and selling out. That's why it sucked, it was a big Eddie show.
Dave was without question the leader of Van HALEN, Eddie wasn't.
You bash Dave, you bash Van HALEN.

OK I want you to tell me what's wrong with that. Because if that's right (and again I want to hear from the highly talented people who controlled their date of birth so as to grow up with Van HALEN) then what does it matter that I didn't grow up with them? Think about that again, IF I'M RIGHT, WHAT DOES IT MATTER THAT I DIDN'T GROW UP WITH THEM. IF ANYTHING I'M MORE OF A FAN BECAUSE I WAS ABLE TO CONCLUDE THIS ON MY OWN.

OK educate me.

[Orgazmo]

Right on man!

[Sarge]

Originally posted by Lou
Van Hagar was all about Eddie and selling out. That's why it sucked, it was a big Eddie show.

Eddie was drunk off his ass and in and out of rehab.
That guy didn't know his asshole from his elbow
I think it was a Sammy show.
That is why it sucked ballz!

Other than that I agree with your post..
Sarge

[Lou]

Well I think the whole emphasis was on Eddie. Who the hell went there to see Sammy Hagar, they went to see Eddie and really nothing else. Whereas with Van HALEN I think people were there for Dave and Eddie equally.

[Sarge]

Someone posted here last week a great quote..
Something like this

"Sammy Hagar was lucky to have been in Van Halen. He was a haircut away from being Eddie Money and would be long forgotten by now"

[Golden AWe]

I'll be 27 this summer.

So it goes for me too, when VH released their first album I was just a sparkle in the ice cream mans eye

[Lou]

And the thing is I could easily lie and I say I was 40 and saw Van HALEN 15 times and then I doubt anyone would be riding my back.

[ZahZoo]

Lou... sorry you didn't get to chose your birth date. Neither did I... nor my parents either... nor my adopted parents either... no matter.

Your opinion about VH is just as legitimate as someone who was born in the 50's and did experience the band during Dave's time.

The only factors that differ is the perspective of the experience based on someone who was an adult and having had musical influences growing up prior to Van Halen and someone that was either not born or was just beginning to develop musical influences with Van Halen in the mix already. Very different musical landscapes/influences.

A 15 year old kid today has at his/her listening options of over 40 years of rock'n'roll to fill their ears and develop a preference in certain genras of music. Then there's those of us who lived that 40 years... The 15 yr old can formulate an opinion and preferences and still say VH is and will always be Dave, Ed, Al & Mike... is the kid's opinion more valid than the 46 years old? Nope... just different persepctive.

[Roth-Halen]

"I'll be 27 this summer.

So it goes for me too, when VH released their first album I was just a sparkle in the ice cream mans eye"

nICE WAY TO PUT IT MAN!
I'd say you weren't even in your dad's balls.
LOL (just kidding)

[Catfish]

Lou's right. When Dave left so did VH's leadership, competitive edge and Eddie's FIRE.

The band became a painful, predictable BORE.

[azcrdnal]

Originally posted by Sarge
Someone posted here last week a great quote..
Something like this

"Sammy Hagar was lucky to have been in Van Halen. He was a haircut away from being Eddie Money and would be long forgotten by now"

so true.

[Dave's PA Rental]

Nice post Lou.

After spending thousands of hours working in music retail through the mid-90's, I had lots of time to ponder the musical tastes of different generations...

A clear sign that you are OLD is when you criticise the younger gererations, and the music they listen to. When we were younger and out having all the fun, bands like Classic Van Halen were on the radio or in our tape decks. Our music was playing in the background when we were having the best times of our lives. We hear that music now, and it brings us back. Memories and feelings come flooding back when we hear a certain song.

Nowadays, we arent out there having all the fun. Now we are working, paying bills, raising kids.

So now there are new generations of kids out getting waysted, banging chicks, having all the fun. And Limp Bizkit and Linkin Park, and yes, Justin Timberlake is whats playing on the radio in the background.

[Dave's PA Rental]

I guess that doesnt have much to do with what Lou began this thread with, but I wanted to say it anyway.

[Golden AWe]

Originally posted by Daves PA rental
So now there are new generations of kids out getting waysted, banging chicks, having all the fun. And Limp Bizkit and Linkin Park, and yes, Justin Timberlake is whats playing on the radio in the background.

One of the reasons I never listen to radio except for hockey broadcasts...

[PHOENIX]

Originally posted by Sarge
Someone posted here last week a great quote..
Something like this

"Sammy Hagar was lucky to have been in Van Halen. He was a haircut away from being Eddie Money and would be long forgotten by now"

The thing is..........Eddie Money is still cooler than Hagar.:D