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Originally posted by DavidLeeNatra man...I was at the show in berlin - germany (with less than 2000 people in the audience) - a friend who worked for the tour sponsor invited me - totally fucked up ed and neckbraced al...totally boring till the crowd startet to chant "we want dave"...never seen somebody more pissed than alexis...while ed was too drunk to realize what was going on around him...no encore...rest of the germany-tour was cancelled because of alexis' neck problems...truth was they couldn't sell out the venues toilets...
(told that story before, but I still laugh, when I think back of that experience)
And because it went bad in germany they didn't came to holland. They canceled the concert because of an accident , alex got hit by a peace of sealing that came down. At least that is what they told us back in holland
Gary seems like the only nice guy out of the whole lot. But... nice guys don't win, but at least he left quietly and didn't talk shit about Sam or Dave.
Originally posted by jeando And because it went bad in germany they didn't came to holland. They canceled the concert because of an accident , alex got hit by a peace of sealing that came down. At least that is what they told us back in holland
Originally posted by Dr. Love Gary seems like the only nice guy out of the whole lot. But... nice guys don't win, but at least he left quietly and didn't talk shit about Sam or Dave.
Gary should have talk shit about Eddie, Alex and Dounut Boy.
And he should have talked some shit about POODLE head too.
Be realistic folks, Gary was offered a kick ass gig with Van Halen and any fool with vocal ability would have jumped at the chance.
he should have known it wouldn't work and I am sure he had his doubts from the start.
I don't like the dude at all, but he did pick some cool Roth era tunes that Spammy would never have touched.
The only problem is that Edward had to re-learn those older songs and they sucked for the most part.
All I'm pointing out here is that Gary stepped up to the plate and tried to please all the fans and for that alone he deserves more respect than Spammy Hagar will ever see in his lifetime.
Hell, I'd rather see Gary back than Spammy if the truth be known, but neither still can replace those sensible shoes Dave wore for the band.
Originally posted by Cathedral Um, lets not gloss over the fact that empy seats and shitty ticket sales for the first time in VH history played a major part in Gary's withdrawl from the band.
It wasn't just the CD sales that sucked...
Face it, the Tour started out like all the others but word of mouth that Gary rolled around the stage like a flaming faggot spread quicker than his ass cheeks and there isn't a true VH fan alive who can tolerate the vision of a hairy ass when thinking about the original woman loving Mighty Van Halen...
Truth...ah so perfect in it's own timing. Gary bailed during their tour. Told the bros. to get either DLR or Sam back because he could easily tell that VH was dwindling with him at the helm. He had the balls to step aside. Im positive I read somewhere that the rest of the band were surprised by this move. They lost their contract, i believe, Gary left, not before. But I could be wrong on that. But Cat is right, the album, the tix sales, t shirts, media attention and all marketing was in the shits for the first time in VH history. It was natural to have him leave. But I remember Gary being interviewed saying "you could tell the fans felt cheated, some were chanting David while others just boo'd". Im gonna check MTV.com or VH1.com for that exact quote.
"FUCK YOU, YOU FUCKIN' BITCH! WHO THE FUCK DO YOU THINK YOU ARE ANYWAYS? TALK TO ME LIKE THAT? FUCK YOU. DRAG QUEEN LOOKIN' WHORE- YOU AINT SHIT. YOUR THE FRECKLE TO THE LEFT OF MY BROWN EYE. NOW GO MAKE YOURSELF USEFUL...OH, PUT DAD ON THE PHONE"
You just have to watch the "Unchained" video from the VH3 tour, to realise how LOW VH have sunk...probably one of their best tunes and it looks and feels like a tour too far....hideous.
Ive never seen gary/van halen. I seen one video and almost puked. never seen live stuff. seen them on Howard Stern, where Gary said virtualy nothing and Ed wondered all over the place stoned out of his tree. I downloaded the VH3 album about 6 months ago now, and I cant get past the first tune. It just sucks.
"FUCK YOU, YOU FUCKIN' BITCH! WHO THE FUCK DO YOU THINK YOU ARE ANYWAYS? TALK TO ME LIKE THAT? FUCK YOU. DRAG QUEEN LOOKIN' WHORE- YOU AINT SHIT. YOUR THE FRECKLE TO THE LEFT OF MY BROWN EYE. NOW GO MAKE YOURSELF USEFUL...OH, PUT DAD ON THE PHONE"
"FUCK YOU, YOU FUCKIN' BITCH! WHO THE FUCK DO YOU THINK YOU ARE ANYWAYS? TALK TO ME LIKE THAT? FUCK YOU. DRAG QUEEN LOOKIN' WHORE- YOU AINT SHIT. YOUR THE FRECKLE TO THE LEFT OF MY BROWN EYE. NOW GO MAKE YOURSELF USEFUL...OH, PUT DAD ON THE PHONE"
I always thought Gary's public pro-life letter to Eddie Vedder pissed off Valerie and she ordered Ed to give him the boot. It may have started there, anyway.
To me, it seems obvious that Gary was brought on after a David Lee Roth reunion fell apart. I mean, they released all of the remastered Roth material before the tour and they played all sorts of obscure Roh tunes like they had prepared a tour to do with him. Where were the Sammy remasters, after all.
Warner wanted Roth back, that's clear. VHIII flopping only solidified their thinking on the subject, and I think they said "it's Roth" or take a walk. So Eddie and Gary split, but Eddie can't stand the idea of having Roth back because it threatens his campaign to present himself as all that matters about Van Halen.
But in fact, Roth is a critical ingrediant in the Van Halen mix, and this will only be pounded home harder with Sammy's new contributions which are sure to be heavily conrolled by Eddie. We are headed for a VHIII repeat.
Regardless of what you think about Sammy, he won't be playing a dominant role this time. He had to agree to all of Eddie's terms to come back, and I'm sure most were of an artistic nature.
So if he's just a voice following instructions, it won't be much different than Gary.
I think we are about to see the same treatment of Sammy that Gary got. He's a bloated old stuck pig, and everyone but vhlinks wants Roth back, except for Van Heiniken who has a huge case of lead guitarist's disease..
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