Dave and Howard have actually been pretty civil toward one another. The fans are more vicious than either. Now the suits come along and fuck it up for everyone: CBS sues Stern and Tom C. is the same thorn for Dave that he was for Howard. I look forward to Dave getting better over time (he's not good now, but he does have a personality and could get good given a year or two) and joining Sirius. It's really like eating a fine steak after you've been forced to munch on beef jerky. abandon "Free " FM (where one has to talk about adult things in the language of pre-schoolers), join us on satellite and drag DLR over.