How can people here claim that Michael Anthony didn't contribute to Van Halen's sound

**Panamark** · 05-09-2004, 04:54 AM

Originally posted by Brett
Whatever Marky Mark, you'd argue if I said the world was round.

Probably

And you wouldnt believe how long you and I have been arguing. For years actually...

**Brett** · 05-09-2004, 12:53 PM

It's not about playing in time dude! It's about there being a bottom to the song when your guitar player isn't playing traditional hard rock rhythm. Holding the bottom together has nothing to do with meter, wtf? Van Halen is a 3-piece instrument band, you can't have your bass playing off doing runs when you have a guitar player who doesn't play in the pocket or conventionally himself, or you lose the semblance of the song. With the way Ed plays, you need a solid bottom, which Mike provides. Have you ever played in a band?

You're just flat out wrong if your argument is meter. One thing has nothing to do with the other.

**pete** · 05-09-2004, 12:56 PM

Originally posted by Brett
Whatever Marky Mark, you'd argue if I said the world was round.

And yes the music would lose the bottom without Mike's bass, Ed doesn't play like a traditional hard rock player. He doesn't chug along.

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Yeah well that ridiculous username isn't going to fly. It's obvious
what
you'll be doing on the board.

Brett

it's not going to fly

**Panamark** · 05-09-2004, 05:44 PM

Originally posted by Brett
It's not about playing in time dude! It's about there being a bottom to the song when your guitar player isn't playing traditional hard rock rhythm. Holding the bottom together has nothing to do with meter, wtf? Van Halen is a 3-piece instrument band, you can't have your bass playing off doing runs when you have a guitar player who doesn't play in the pocket or conventionally himself, or you lose the semblance of the song. With the way Ed plays, you need a solid bottom, which Mike provides. Have you ever played in a band?

You're just flat out wrong if your argument is meter. One thing has nothing to do with the other.

The argument *WAS* timing.

If what you are saying is true, you are telling me that your hero has no rhythm timing at all.

Now please correct me if Im wrong, but dont Ed and Al write the songs long before a Bass player is involved ? They jam, just the two of
them ! Al must be forever getting pissed at Ed because he cant hold his timing, if what you are saying is true.

If you are talking about tone. Of course you need a fucking bass player to produce the low end frequencies. But this argument was that Ed would be a hopelessly lost out of time player without Mike's bass to provide him with a timing anchor. This is simply not true.

Any musician worth his salt can keep timing on drums alone.

Yes I played in bands for 15 years. Jammed, many many times with just the Drummer and myself. And no I wasnt wandering all over the place with my timing. Actually Im surprised as hell that a guitarist is telling me he needs a bass player present, or else he cant hold his timing. WTF ??

Some of these mini jams with my ex drummers were early Van Halen tunes, timing was not a prob. I find nothing easier than playing along with just a drummer, and can get a tight, synced sound.

And I am no EVH. I refuse to believe that Ed cant keep his timing with AL. There would be no Van Halen songs in existence if what you are saying is true.

**DavidLeeNatra** · 05-09-2004, 06:05 PM

panamark, you are right on that...alexis always said that him and ed are "together" and lay down the basic groove...mike is just there for the lower frequencies and to fill up when ed plays solo...

**Lou** · 05-09-2004, 06:14 PM

Originally posted by FORD
Nobody can touch Mike's harmonies, but he's not that great of a bass player.

Bingo!

**Golden AWe** · 05-09-2004, 06:17 PM

Originally posted by cwsmith17
What? The bass player and drummer have to be in the pocket! Mike's singing and HIS basslines helped create that Classic Van Halen sound!

Mike was one of the four members of the Band Formerly Known As Van Halen (=BFKAVH) but you're praising him like he would've been as important as Geezer Butler to the original Black Sabbath...

**DavidLeeNatra** · 05-09-2004, 06:38 PM

Originally posted by Golden AWe
Mike was one of the four members of the Band Formerly Known As Van Halen (=BFKAVH) but you're praising him like he would've been as important as Geezer Butler to the original Black Sabbath...

don't bother answering...that guy goes to a van hagar concert to hear and see mike's crazy bass solo...

**Bighead** · 05-09-2004, 06:48 PM

A Friend of mine is 14 and HE can play better than Michael Anthony. Heck, I can

**Bighead** · 05-09-2004, 06:50 PM

A Friend of mine is 14 and HE can play better than Michael Anthony. Heck, I can

Originally posted by Bighead
A Friend of mine is 14 and HE can play better than Michael Anthony. Heck, I can

**Golden AWe** · 05-09-2004, 07:12 PM

WOW!

That was a trippy post!!!

**Terry** · 05-09-2004, 08:48 PM

In terms of authenticity, can't have Van Halen without Mike and Alex there.

In retrospect, 'bout the only thing anyone had to say about Alex back in the day was that he had a large drumkit, and I don't recall anyone having much to say about Mike other than he was the bass player, later amended to he was the bass player with a bass shaped like a bottle of Jack Daniels.

Were Alex and Mike part of Van halen and did they make a contribution? Sure, but let's not overstate their importance.

**DavidLeeNatra** · 05-10-2004, 02:13 AM

Originally posted by Terry
Were Alex and Mike part of Van halen and did they make a contribution? Sure, but let's not overstate their importance.

amen

**Bill Lumbergh** · 05-10-2004, 04:20 AM

Mike's legacy? "The fat guy in Van Halen" I can't give a fair opinion on that fat fuck right now, cuz he's had some pretty idiotic comments about Dave over the years. The sisters I can see, but not that puppet.

**Panamark** · 05-10-2004, 04:28 AM

I think Bighead is playing bass and posting simultaneosly

How can people here claim that Michael Anthony didn't contribute to Van Halen's sound

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