Micheal Anthony's Disappearing songwriting credits

**Terry** · 06-14-2006, 10:37 PM

Well, my feeling is that the song credits and publishing were originally split four ways more as a means to provide harmony within the group than anything else...I mean, have you ever read a Mike Anthony interview where he said "You know such-and-such a song? Well, I wrote it"?

I think his songwriting abilities were pretty much exhausted with the RWTD and YNG intros, after which Ed told him to just follow along with what he [Ed] was doing. Either that or it could just be a publisher's omission/error.

Far as I'm concerned, Ed and Dave were the central creative point for all that CVH stuff anyways.

**Matt White** · 06-14-2006, 10:42 PM

Yeah...many groups split the songwriting credits up to keep the piece...that way a BASS PLAYER, be it Bill Wyman or JOhn Paul JOnes, didn't feel slighted (or AS slighted) when their songs constantly didn't make the record....

I've NEVER heard of a guy losing those credits 20+ years after a recording came out....

BUSH-LEAGUE move...and no Ray Daniels to blame it on either......

**DrMaddVibe** · 06-14-2006, 10:55 PM

I wonder when bassplayer comes crawling back to Dave with his tail between his legs!

With Dave out of Van Halen it was apparent that bassplayer's contribution to the group was nil. Even on "Fair Warning" Eddie was writing bass parts for him to play.

I've really gone back and listened to a lot of CVH live boots and bassplayer's voice is terrible. In the studio it was there.

It wouldn't bust me a bit to see a Ed & Dave only tour ala Plant & Page.

**DlocRoth** · 06-14-2006, 11:05 PM

Bass player is a cowardly cunt. Doesn't mean I don't respect what he contributed to the classic sound, but he's been takin it in the ass for far too long to give a shit about it now.

Being a little bitch has given him a bank account that will put his great grandchildren through college. He is apparently cool with that. Not everybody has the sack to be a leader.

He's got no ego, no spine and a mullet.

Other than that, he's aces in my book.

**redblkwht** · 06-15-2006, 02:49 AM

Originally posted by DlocRoth
Bass player is a cowardly cunt. Doesn't mean I don't respect what he contributed to the classic sound, but he's been takin it in the ass for far too long to give a shit about it now.

Being a little bitch has given him a bank account that will put his great grandchildren through college. He is apparently cool with that. Not everybody has the sack to be a leader.

He's got no ego, no spine and a mullet.

Other than that, he's aces in my book.

Nicely put..
I woulda been more rude, but
to the point bro.
I agree, the only way would probabally be a page/plant type deal..
but didnt DLR say all or nothing on a reunion?

**binnie** · 06-15-2006, 03:00 AM

Did Mike Anthony lose some rights as a result of the last Van Hagar tour?

Or am I completely off track there...

**Plexi Head** · 06-15-2006, 03:27 AM

Originally posted by DlocRoth
Bass player is a cowardly cunt. Doesn't mean I don't respect what he contributed to the classic sound, but he's been takin it in the ass for far too long to give a shit about it now.

Being a little bitch has given him a bank account that will put his great grandchildren through college. He is apparently cool with that. Not everybody has the sack to be a leader.

He's got no ego, no spine and a mullet.

Other than that, he's aces in my book.

If you were sitting in a bar and Mike sat down next to you, nodded and ordered a jack, would you call him a cowardly cunt to his face?

Honestly!

Me thinks not, you would probably kiss his ass.

I thank fucking christ that Mike was the bass player in Van Halen, a guy like Sheean would have completely fucked the whole balance of what was an amazing unit. Fuck listen to the bullshit Lukather contributed on the abortion that is 3.

The fact that Mike has no ego is in his favour, makes him a team player and if only more bass players could put their egos in check and do what they are meant to do, provide solid low end and support the guitar player and song.

By the way, if you could point me in the direction of your own acheivments in the music biz I would be interested seeing as you obviously have the know how and legendary status to so readily evaluate someone else who actually had a career.

Try replying to my post by using your brain rather than some juvenile high school retort. It becomes rather boring when an opinion is voiced here that does not agree with the collective and the collective jumps on the bandwagon to sink the boots in. I call THAT cowardly.

**bueno bob** · 06-15-2006, 03:28 AM

Originally posted by binnie
Did Mike Anthony lose some rights as a result of the last Van Hagar tour?

Or am I completely off track there...

No. Mike recently said something about having to sign off on any and all things "Van Halen", otherwise Ed & Al Inc. wasn't going to let him tour...or so he lets on...

Says he was nervous that it might be the last VH tour ever, and if so he wanted to be part of it...

If it IS the last VH tour ever...what a fucking rotten way to go out...

With a whimper, not with a bang - and the meak inherit shit...

**Ally_Kat** · 06-15-2006, 03:38 AM

Curious, does anybody know how it was credited when Sammy was in the group -- if it was the same 4-way split?

**bueno bob** · 06-15-2006, 03:41 AM

Originally posted by Plexi Head
If you were sitting in a bar and Mike sat down next to you, nodded and ordered a jack, would you call him a cowardly cunt to his face?

Honestly!

Me thinks not, you would probably kiss his ass.

I thank fucking christ that Mike was the bass player in Van Halen, a guy like Sheean would have completely fucked the whole balance of what was an amazing unit. Fuck listen to the bullshit Lukather contributed on the abortion that is 3.

The fact that Mike has no ego is in his favour, makes him a team player and if only more bass players could put their egos in check and do what they are meant to do, provide solid low end and support the guitar player and song.

By the way, if you could point me in the direction of your own acheivments in the music biz I would be interested seeing as you obviously have the know how and legendary status to so readily evaluate someone else who actually had a career.

Try replying to my post by using your brain rather than some juvenile high school retort. It becomes rather boring when an opinion is voiced here that does not agree with the collective and the collective jumps on the bandwagon to sink the boots in. I call THAT cowardly.

Well, by that logic, I guess Sammy Hagar, Britney Spears and Jessica Simpson the virtual fucking Bach, Beethoven and Paginini of our time, hmm?

This is the last time I'm going to say this:

Not everybody who "makes it" in the music industry deserves to. Time and time again, I've heard the "How many albums have YOU made?" argument and each time it sounds more stupid than it did the last.

MANY musicians who don't make it deserve it more than those who do. I know of bar acts locally that have toiled away in obscurity for more than 20 years and their original material is thousands of times better than half of the shit that's been signed and on the radio since their inception as a band.

The fact that you're signed, with a band, and/or making records does not automatically equate "talent" and "the right to be there", and I'm really tired of hearing that used as an argument when there are so many talented musicians in the world starving to death because they're not in the right place at the right time.

**Plexi Head** · 06-15-2006, 03:56 AM

Ya make ya own luck in this world Bob.

I know this to be a fact.

I hate words being put into my mouth. Where did I say if you are succesful in the music business it makes you a good musician.

I asked Dlok what he had done himself in the music biz to formulate such an opinion full of vitriol and hate directed towards MY favourite bass player.

So Mike did not deserve to make it in the music business Bobby Boy?

Who put up the flyers in the early days, who did the hard yards in the early days, success in a band is a team effort and Mike was part of that team.

Sounds like you yourself are somewhat bitter. Making it has nothing to do with luck Bobby Boy, it's hard work, passion and surrendering your life to a cause.

I hope you stick to your word about "The last time you are going to say this" because I don't care and what you had to say smacked of someone who thinks they should have "made it" themselves.

**bueno bob** · 06-15-2006, 04:09 AM

Originally posted by Plexi Head
Ya make ya own luck in this world Bob.

I know this to be a fact.

I hate words being put into my mouth. Where did I say if you are succesful in the music business it makes you a good musician.

I didn't say that you did say that. What you said is this:

"By the way, if you could point me in the direction of your own acheivments in the music biz I would be interested seeing as you obviously have the know how and legendary status to so readily evaluate someone else who actually had a career."

Which translates essentially into this:

"Don't badmouth Mike or his playing unless you've released umpteen albums yourself, otherwise you don't know SHIT!"

I believe that, even as an UNSIGNED musician, I, as a bass player, can critique Mike all I fucking like.

You seem to think that's not the case, because I haven't recorded an album - or at least that's what you're insinuating, and I find that flawed logic.

I asked Dlok what he had done himself in the music biz to formulate such an opinion full of vitriol and hate directed towards MY favourite bass player.

Exactly my point - he doesn't need to have done jack shit in the music biz to dislike Mike Anthony by any measure.

So Mike did not deserve to make it in the music business Bobby Boy?

In my opinion? Not especially. Not based on any measure of talent, anyway. In my opinion, he got lucky because anything he does on bass could be done by virtually a million other people. He just happened to be in the right place at the right time and it could have been a million other dudes instead of him.

So why should I feel obligated to rave about his talent when, at the end of the day, he's a very average bass player?

Who put up the flyers in the early days, who did the hard yards in the early days, success in a band is a team effort and Mike was part of that team.

So what?

Sounds like you yourself are somewhat bitter. Making it has nothing to do with luck Bobby Boy, it's hard work, passion and surrendering your life to a cause.

So said many beginning musicians.

I hope you stick to your word about "The last time you are going to say this" because I don't care

Obviously you do or you wouldn't have bothered responding.

and what you had to say smacked of someone who thinks they should have "made it" themselves.

No, I think of about 35 other people I know who should have. So smack yourself with that.

**binnie** · 06-15-2006, 05:35 AM

Originally posted by bueno bob
No. Mike recently said something about having to sign off on any and all things "Van Halen", otherwise Ed & Al Inc. wasn't going to let him tour...or so he lets on...

Says he was nervous that it might be the last VH tour ever, and if so he wanted to be part of it...

If it IS the last VH tour ever...what a fucking rotten way to go out...

With a whimper, not with a bang - and the meak inherit shit...

Thanks for clarifying!

**bueno bob** · 06-15-2006, 05:36 AM

Originally posted by binnie
Thanks for clarifying!

No problem.

The Pen exists only to serve...or is that the Bene Gesserit, I forget...?

Micheal Anthony's Disappearing songwriting credits

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