The Complete 1981 Oakland Show

[indeedido]

Originally posted by Calderone
and if i recall correctly they shot some "3 clips" for VHII .. Dance the night away,You're no good and forgot about the other pretending they were 100% live ..but they were doctored
same as KISS ALIVE I,IIand III
every one thought it was real live,

I hate that. I love Alive! and Alive II. But Alive III is so blatently fake it makes me sick.

[slothrec]

Oakland 81 general reply

6 Degrees of separation, folks! we all know each other through other people! There has to be somebody out there who knows somebody, who knows somebbody, who knows somebody, who knows somebody, who knows somebody, who knows somebody,

who knows either:
Bruce Gowers
Simon Fields or
Paul Flattery or
Thier kids, who are probably grown by now...and out there trying to make connections of their own..
or their wives,
or something!!

We gotta get a holdof that Oakland 81 tape, or Beta, or reel, or whatever its on!!

[Va Beach VH Fan]

Pls refer to the other threads on this...

http://www.rotharmy.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=8037&highlight=Gowers

[jharp84]

I'll take any oakland, any format, any sound/video! RIGHT NOW!

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by Calderone
The Oakland clips are doctored 100%

Define "doctored."

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by indeedido
I hate that. I love Alive! and Alive II. But Alive III is so blatently fake it makes me sick.

Um dude, AIII is nor more "fake" than is AI, possibly less so...

[Terry]

KISS Alive 3 being more or less fake than the other two matters not: for me it is a suckfest, so how much post-concert studio time was put into it is besdide the point.

Far as the Oakland 1981 clips being "doctored", it's always been obvious that the video was spliced - it's not a seamless filmed shot of the tunes that would naturally synch up with the audio, but the audio seems to be as-is, to me. Have heard plenty of other boots from that tour, and the audio from those three clips is consistent with what I heard from other dates on that tour.

[Nickdfresh]

The audio was possibly "mixed" for the three videos, but there was no overdubbing. That's pretty obvious to any fan that has heard more than two live albums or bootlegs.

And yes, Alive III is as 'bout as useful as a pygmy basketball player. But it was no more "fake" than Alive I or II, and I do think that rumors of those albums being rerecorded in studio are highly exaggerated.

[runninwithroth]

Originally posted by FORD
The Oakland clips don't sound overdubbed to me, but the Us Festival clips were obvious compared to the original.

I guess we'll never know for sure, unless the goddamned video is released.

right on, regis.

[Johnny Bukkake]

Originally posted by stratovarious
Mike and Alex were..Well at least they were there

Fuck you, the entire band fucking rocked!!! That's what made them great!!! THE GREATEST!!!

[runninwithroth]

Originally posted by Johnny Bukkake
Fuck you, the entire band fucking rocked!!! That's what made them great!!! THE GREATEST!!!

jonny buttfucker is right. all 4 members equally made vh tick.

[Johnny Bukkake]

Originally posted by runninwithroth
jonny buttfucker is right. all 4 members equally made vh tick.

THANK YOU...I THINK...

[DLRdelight!]

who cares its live footage!!!

[ace diamond]

i would buy the raw video.