Is Dave's solo career in the same league as Van Halen?

[cwsmith17]

No. Dave's music is good stuff, but Van Halen is timeless, classic, magical, amazing etc.. It blows my mind to hear people actually compare Dave's solo stuff to Classic Van Halen. It's a goddamn joke. Not even in the same sport! What do you think?

[secrets]

EEAS is on par with classic Van Halen and way better than anything VH have done or will do without him.

[cwsmith17]

Originally posted by secrets
EEAS is on par with classic Van Halen and way better than anything VH have done or will do without him.

I'm not talking about Van Hagar. Everytime I ask a question.....people always stray off into Van Hagar territory or just act like faggots bashing Sam. EEAS was a great piece of work, but come on.........it is no where near any of the "six pack" songs.

[squib]

No doubt in my mind that EEAS has the same timeless, classic, magical, amazing etc...as the six pack...LISTEN TO IT LOUD...in fact it has more quality songs then 1984. I know other people like the whole 1984 album, but for me, after Jump, which was a great song, but more of a cultural phenomena, Panama and Hot for Teacher the Album is not up to par with the other 5 albums or EEAS. Dont forget Crazy from the Heat. Calfornia Girls and Just a Gigalo come on.

...but after that? YOU HAVE TO SEPERATE THE MUSIC FROM THE CAREER. There were lots of great songs in the following albums, but Dave wasn't interested in being popular on someone else's terms. The music world changed and Dave didn't MUCH RESPECT FOR THAT.

But you have to look at more than just that!!!

You want to put Dave down because his solo stuff itsn't on par with Classic Van Halen? WHOS CAREER CAN YOU COMPARE WITH CLASSIC VAN HALEN? Sammys? Planet Us? Eddies movie score?

So thats why people bring Van Hagar into it and Van Hagars success was built on a name. The name Dave chose for the group...Van Halen. Then they figured out that you could sell some records with power ballads and love songs and did just that.

All in all as I think about it, a silly question

[smaz]

Nothing will ever be the same as Classic VH, but Dave's solo stuff is closer to it than Van Hagar.

[Terry]

I prefer EEAS over 1984, truth be told.

DLR Band was also a great effort. Most of Dave's solo stuff recaptures the same feel and produces the same emotions for me that classic Van Halen did, and I was into classic Van Halen for Eddie's guitar work as much as what Roth was doing.

I see more of a link in terms of the spirit, musical style and intensity with what Roth did as a solo act and classic Van Halen than I do with what Van Halen did with either Sammy or Gary fronting Halen.

In terms of solo Roth and the 6 pack of classic Van Halen, 1984 for me was a weak album. EEAS will always spend more time in my disc player than Van Halen's last full-length effort with Roth.

[dave_is_vh]

Skyscraper is better than any Van Halen album ever recorded - including Fair Warning, VH I, and 1984.

[secrets]

Originally posted by cwsmith17
EEAS was a great piece of work, but come on.........it is no where near any of the "six pack" songs.

Isn't it? Well if EEAS isn't close to early Van Halen, what is? As I've said b4 EEAS is on par with early Van Halen and in places maybe better than some of the later stuff w/Roth.

Vai and Sheehan together were absolutely amazing. Dave's vocals are great. This album is just incredible from start to finish. To me it just hasn't dated at all, perhaps only slightly, in that you don't hear playing of that calibre anymore in mainstream rock music.

IMO this album is comparible with VH classics such as Fair Warning.
No one can replace EVH he is (or should I say was?) amazing but EEAS has a unique sound that is full of energy just like those early VH records.

[cwsmith17]

Originally posted by smaz
Nothing will ever be the same as Classic VH, but Dave's solo stuff is closer to it than Van Hagar.

No doubt.

[secrets]

Originally posted by dave_is_vh
Skyscraper is better than any Van Halen album ever recorded - including Fair Warning, VH I, and 1984.

Absolutely no way is it. It's a good album but not in the same league as Fair Warning. Explain your theory.

[Mezro]

Originally posted by dave_is_vh
Skyscraper is better than any Van Halen album ever recorded - including Fair Warning, VH I, and 1984.

You are kidding right?

Mezro..shocked like a monkey clocked with a donkey punch

[Mezro]

Originally posted by cwsmith17
EEAS was a great piece of work, but come on.........it is no where near any of the "six pack" songs.

I consider EEAS part of the "seven pack."

Yeah, it is that damn good and completely "feels" like what a "classic" VH CD should be.

Mezro..not a shy boy

[dave_is_vh]

Originally posted by secrets
Absolutely no way is it. It's a good album but not in the same league as Fair Warning. Explain your theory.

Since Skyscaper is not typical Roth Rock, many fans do not like it as much. It is not Dave trying to recreate Van Halen. It is Dave being a futuristic Dave. And a lot of VH fans have heart attacks when they hear keyboards. I like keyboards. So since this CD sounds like a futuristic movie soundtrack at times, many of the closed minded Roth fans do not fully appreciate it.

Anyone who does not have a preconcieved notion of what Dave is and listened to all of Dave's CDs (including those Dave CDs with EVH on guitar) would undoubtedly pick Skyscraper as the best Dave or VH CD ever.

If you don't agree you are a closed minded mettle head.

[tjvhou812]

classic van halen shits on everything
its the best shit there is
eeas was great but dont compare it to hall of fame rock and roll

[rustoffa]

Dave's whole schtick is his and his alone. He was the part of VAN HALEN that made it VAN HALEN. If you have any pre-conceived notions about Dave that hold merit, you would know beyond the shadow of a doubt that he could give a fuck less about making a "VH" type recording. I like Dave's solo efforts but they're not like VAN HALEN recordings. ALAE was the end of an "era"....probably the best example, IMO, the "era" VAN HALEN created...not sounded like.