Why doesn't Dave get the RESPECT he deserves???

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  • FORD
    ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

    • Jan 2004
    • 59630

    #31
    If Paul McCartney had continued to release his albums as "The Beatles", especially anything after 1976, do you think The Beatles reputation would still be entirely intact?
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    • Bill Lumbergh
      ROCKSTAR

      • Mar 2004
      • 5472

      #32
      To the world at large he's a relic of the 80's.......It's a bunch of fucking BS, but I think the split also had a lot to do with it, of course. Had they stayed together he would still likely command the respect he did in those years(and his early solo career). It's a load of bullshit, those 6 records and live shows of that era(as well as CFTH, ALAE etc) speak for themselves........Who gives a fuck though, really? Dave is a legend, and the music will live forever.........

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      • Three Lock Rock
        Sniper
        • Apr 2005
        • 905

        #33
        But not as long as Sammy's will!

        OWNED!!!!!!!!

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        Owned bitches:

        Bueno Boob
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        and any other Rothtard faggit that tries to deny that REAL Van Halen is SAMMY HAGAR!

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        • bueno bob
          DIAMOND STATUS
          • Jul 2004
          • 22951

          #34
          Originally posted by Three Lock Rock
          But not as long as Sammy's will!

          OWNED!!!!!!!!

          Three Lock Rock
          Kicking ass and taking names
          Isn't it time you came back to the Pen?

          Argue with us, shitstick, you LOVE it so much...
          Twistin' by the pool.

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          • MAPRamone
            Head Fluffer
            • Jun 2006
            • 460

            #35
            Originally posted by fe_lung
            Didn't Paul have that changed a couple of years ago? Aren't the songs credited to McCartney/Lennon now?
            I'm kind of glad Paul did that. :D After the assassination Lennon gained a kind of messianic status, which dead rock stars often get and in my opinion, don't deserve. Paul was every bit as important to The Beatles as John.
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            • bueno bob
              DIAMOND STATUS
              • Jul 2004
              • 22951

              #36
              If not more so...depending on your point of view...
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              • indeedido
                Veteran
                • Feb 2004
                • 2293

                #37
                seems easy enough to figure out. Anytime someone acts like a clown as much as DLR, people tend to not respect them, until they act serious also. He has never gotten rid of the schtick he does. I think mainstream thinks he is a goof with no substance. This isn't how I feel, I love dave, but people tend to not give respect to people like this. I think same goes for some comedians. you see comedians stretch themselves and do something serious like Jack Black in The Holiday. The Holiday? Come on. Jim Carey in Eternal Sunshine of the spotless mind. May be good, but is a different vehicle.
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                • ppg960
                  Sniper
                  • Dec 2005
                  • 991

                  #38
                  Bingo!!

                  Originally posted by Calderone
                  The only explanation I can think of is that Dave's over the top, flamboyant, outspoken personality is something that a lot of losers feel threatened by, and to protect their fragile egos they attack Dave.

                  that's the truth
                  That's it exactly.
                  Ford, care to explain why most Canucks claim they are from California??
                  What are you smoking tonight?

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                  • Terry
                    DIAMOND STATUS
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 12133

                    #39
                    What was it Roth said about the critics...something along the lines of the reason so many of them hated him and loved Elvis Costello is because so many of them looked like Elvis Costello...

                    Dave and CVH never got much critical acclaim (outside of a few guitar mags and rock rags) back in the day because they weren't pretentious and had no ambitions or designs beyond being a kick-ass rock band.

                    Plus, it's an easy out for many to just look at Roth's showmanship and focus on the flashy surface of his presentation and proclaim that was all he was about, and blather some nonsense about how Eddie's playing was the only worthwhile thing going on in CVH.

                    If Dave and the rest of CVH actually do pull off a reunion, respect can also be measured by the response in ticket sales. Also, all I have to do is just listen to my local classic rock station, which plays just as much CVH (and thankfully ONLY CVH) as they do Led Zep, The Who, etc.
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                    • ZahZoo
                      ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                      • Jan 2004
                      • 9172

                      #40
                      Too many clown acts and half assed career moves.

                      Next item... piss poor shit management and unprofessional PR representation. Whoever manages Dave should be taken out and shot.
                      "If you want to be a monk... you gotta cook a lot of rice...”

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                      • pflo
                        Banned
                        • Nov 2006
                        • 420

                        #41
                        Re: Why doesn't Dave get the RESPECT he deserves???

                        Originally posted by dave_is_vh


                        Why doesn't Dave get the respect he deserves?
                        Simple. He never wanted any. For more info see the "Yankee Rose" video with the assless chaps and mascara. Or the overlong drunken stage raps that drag on and on on those old boots like US 83. I dont think "earning respect" was ever his modus operandi.

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                        • pflo
                          Banned
                          • Nov 2006
                          • 420

                          #42
                          Re: Bingo!!

                          Originally posted by ppg960

                          Ford, care to explain why most Canucks claim they are from California??
                          Is that right? I didnt know that. Very interesting. You sure know your facts.

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                          • Loons The Great

                            #43
                            Re: Re: Why doesn't Dave get the RESPECT he deserves???

                            Originally posted by pflo
                            Simple. He never wanted any. For more info see the "Yankee Rose" video with the assless chaps and mascara. Or the overlong drunken stage raps that drag on and on on those old boots like US 83. I dont think "earning respect" was ever his modus operandi.
                            FUNNY WHAT YOU REMEMBER. I REMEMBER THE MUSIC. GET THE FUCK OUTTA HERE YOU NO BUSINESS BORN RAT SOUP EATEN JIVEASS MOTHERFUCKER!

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                            • JumpinJack
                              Roth Army Recruit
                              • Jan 2004
                              • 19

                              #44
                              Re: Why doesn't Dave get the RESPECT he deserves???

                              Originally posted by dave_is_vh

                              But you always hear people saying crap about Dave - he can't sing, he's a jerk, he's full of himself, he sucks compared to Gaygar, he is a has been, he's an idiot etc.


                              Why doesn't Dave get the respect he deserves? [/B]
                              The weird thing is that in Dave's case even some of his self-proclaimed fans continue to bash him - for his looks these days, his voice not being in shape, his recent albums, his not so recent albums, his leaving Van Halen - which of course was a mistake but no reason to make fun of the best frontman of all times, much less as a "fan".

                              Just my 2 cents

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