"Ticket Brokers" vs "Scalping"

[Jay45]

Originally posted by DLRISVH7884
$700, try $2,000

I paid 1800 for 8 ducats for 4 shows.That breaks down to $225 per cardboard.Priced a Lakers, Knicks, or Colts game lately? Think people.
I know all of you love Van Halen, or we wouldn't even be discussing this.And I do wish prices were less.I wanted to see the whole fucking tour!Like Roger Waters says "Everyman has his price, and yours was pretty low".

I respect that for whatever reason some of you guys are revolted at shelling out this kind of cash but please, don't begrudge and belittle with names those of us who have yet to attain your level of fiscal and moral responsibility. Or like myself too rich(hahafuckin jokin) and or stupid to no better.Hope you enjoy the boots and DVD.

[Ra Power]

More evidence of the disappearing middle class. In 20 years (if not sooner), concerts will be elitist affairs only for the rich.

[DLRISVH7884]

Originally posted by Jay45
I paid 1800 for 8 ducats for 4 shows.That breaks down to $225 per cardboard.Priced a Lakers, Knicks, or Colts game lately? Think people.
I know all of you love Van Halen, or we wouldn't even be discussing this.And I do wish prices were less.I wanted to see the whole fucking tour!Like Roger Waters says "Everyman has his price, and yours was pretty low".

I respect that for whatever reason some of you guys are revolted at shelling out this kind of cash but please, don't begrudge and belittle with names those of us who have yet to attain your level of fiscal and moral responsibility. Or like myself too rich(hahafuckin jokin) and or stupid to no better.Hope you enjoy the boots and DVD.

Yes, but lots of people don't have 1,500-2,5000 in their budget, nor even $700.

It kind of pisses me off how ticket brokers and scalpers are trying to take advantage of die hard fans like me and other Roth and CVH fans in this forum that want to get up close to see their favorite band.

It's also fucked up how these brokers are able to buy these front floor seats before they go onsale to the rest of the public.

[Ellyllions]

Originally posted by DLRISVH7884
Ticket brokers are blackmail taking great seats away us fans and charging prices most of us can't afford for the tickets.

They don't care if you can afford it. Shit, give them a credit card number, your lack of money is not their concern, ya know?

I agree with all the vitrol against scalpers and brokers. The band's don't see any of the profits that these thieves make from tickets and yet the RIAA are chasing down IP addresses for $.99 songs? Where is the representation for the bands who's tickets are making brokers and scalpers millions?

On Saturday, after we'd bought our tickets from Ticketbastard (and I only say that because of their ridiculous $11.00 convienience fee for each ticket) I did some looking around the net for fun. By 10:18 there were already 2 pages of tickets available on Ebay, and StubHub had 6 or so. All just for the Greensboro show. So I started looking at other broker sites and noticed something...

There were a large number of sites who seemed to be selling tickets in the same section and the same rows. Hmm...I thought to myself, that's interesting. So I did a search on these same sites for another show that's coming up here in Raleigh on Tuesday just to see what I could find. Again, the broker sites seemed to be selling the same areas in the same rows.

I believe that Ticketmaster is in cahoots with these brokers as well after seeing this. I believe that they're "reserved" sections for the brokers to sell and if they can't sell them by "X" date, they go back to the venue or Ticketmaster and then released back to the general public. That could explain why I've been able to walk up to the box office on the day of a show and get incredible seats...

[Hyman Roth]

Very interesting. Good detective work.

[DLRISVH7884]

Originally posted by Ellyllions
They don't care if you can afford it. Shit, give them a credit card number, your lack of money is not their concern, ya know?

I agree with all the vitrol against scalpers and brokers. The band's don't see any of the profits that these thieves make from tickets and yet the RIAA are chasing down IP addresses for $.99 songs? Where is the representation for the bands who's tickets are making brokers and scalpers millions?

On Saturday, after we'd bought our tickets from Ticketbastard (and I only say that because of their ridiculous $11.00 convienience fee for each ticket) I did some looking around the net for fun. By 10:18 there were already 2 pages of tickets available on Ebay, and StubHub had 6 or so. All just for the Greensboro show. So I started looking at other broker sites and noticed something...

There were a large number of sites who seemed to be selling tickets in the same section and the same rows. Hmm...I thought to myself, that's interesting. So I did a search on these same sites for another show that's coming up here in Raleigh on Tuesday just to see what I could find. Again, the broker sites seemed to be selling the same areas in the same rows.

I believe that Ticketmaster is in cahoots with these brokers as well after seeing this. I believe that they're "reserved" sections for the brokers to sell and if they can't sell them by "X" date, they go back to the venue or Ticketmaster and then released back to the general public. That could explain why I've been able to walk up to the box office on the day of a show and get incredible seats...

Yes, I've done the same looking around at different Broker sites and found the same thing, Whats really interesting all the Broker companys from all the different broker buisnesses are spread all across the US, so how would the brokers have the tickets in their hands if you order from one site? I know these broker companys compete with each other no different than any other buisness.

[Jay45]

Originally posted by DLRISVH7884
Yes, I've done the same looking around at different Broker sites and found the same thing, Whats really interesting all the Broker companys from all the different broker buisnesses are spread all across the US, so how would the brokers have the tickets in their hands if you order from one site? I know these broker companys compete with each other no different than any other buisness.

There is coordination to a degree between the brokers.Golden Ticket, Murray's and a couple of others set the price so to speak and the others get in line.There is an awful lot of trading between brokers ( I'll trade you 2 NBA All Stars for 6 Kentucky Derbies). That sort of bartering is commonplace between them.

[Angel]

Here is Saskatachewan, scalping isn't illegal. It was in Alberta, and the brokers had to be offering more than just the concert ticket.

I won a package for Eric Clapton. Face value of the ticket was $120. The package was valued at $250. Their offer? A shitty BBQ steak dinner, and a ride to the venue.

[DLRISVH7884]

Scalping just became legal here, but I remember the days when they use to scalp Vikings Tickets at the dome and they offer a Jersey that's only worth $70 bucks or a toaster only with $30, so they can sell the tickets $200 bucks over face Value.