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  • Nickdfresh
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    • Oct 2004
    • 49565

    Van Halen Angers Fans With Anthony Snubs

    08/20/07
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    (antiMusic) Van Halen fans were ecstatic when the band announced that they will be returning to the stage this fall with their original frontman David Lee Roth. Some fans were disappointed that original bassist Michael Anthony will not be a part of the reunion with Eddie Van Halen's son Wolfgang taking his place. That disappointment turned into anger when Anthony's image was replaced with Wolfgang on album artwork posted on the band's website. Although, the original images were quickly reinstated, now fans are angry that Anthony is being written out of the band's songwriting history.

    A fan wrote us on Saturday with the following: "On every single Van Halen song (with exception to the three new songs on the Best of Both Worlds compilation, ) credits have always gone to Eddie Van Halen, Alex Van Halen, Michael Anthony, and the lead singer who is featured on the song (Roth/Hagar/Cherone). However, during the credits of the film 'Superbad', which features the song 'Panama', the song is only credited to the two Van Halens and Roth! Anthony continues to get snubbed by his former band as they attempt to erase him from the history of the band."

    We looked a little further into this and discovered that Anthony has been removed from the credits for all of the songs from the band's Diamond Award winning album 1984 in the ASCAP database. The All Music Guide credits for the songs on the album include Anthony, Eddie, Alex, and Roth. However, Michael McDonald is missing from the credits for the track "I'll Wait". A check of other Van Halen releases still list Anthony as a co-writer.

    Anthony was reportedly forced to sign a reduced royalty contract in order to take part in the 2004 reunion tour with Sammy Hagar. His Wikipedia entry states" For the band's reunion in 2004, Anthony was not allowed to write/record the three new songs for The Best of Both Worlds. This time however, he was [correctly] not credited for songwriting involvement. The album's credits don't mention his non-involvement in the actual performance however. On a separate reduced royalties contract he performed on the tour however, at Sammy Hagar's insistence. The contract drawn up was for the duration of the tour only, with his role within the band resting in the hands of the Van Halen brothers there after. Throughout this time, and during the Van Halen III period, the public was unaware that Anthony's status within the band was fading over time."
  • Nickdfresh
    SUPER MODERATOR

    • Oct 2004
    • 49565

    #2
    What fucking dicks Alexis and spEdwad are...:D

    Mike gets cut out --But Alex still gets song writing creds?!

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    • Vinnie Velvet
      Full Member Status

      • Feb 2004
      • 4658

      #3
      This was done years ago, actually.

      If you read inside BOV1, Mike isn't listed under the writing credits for Jump and Panama, if I recall.

      Yet, he is fully listed in the credits for the 2000 remaster.

      Who the fuck knows.
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      EAT US AND SMILE

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      • Warham
        DIAMOND STATUS
        • Mar 2004
        • 14589

        #4
        Wasn't it mentioned somewhere that Anthony really didn't write any of the material, particularly for 1984?

        I had always assumed Al and Mike were given royaltees just to make it more of a 'band' atmosphere, but never really had much imput.

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        • Nickdfresh
          SUPER MODERATOR

          • Oct 2004
          • 49565

          #5
          Originally posted by Warham
          Wasn't it mentioned somewhere that Anthony really didn't write any of the material, particularly for 1984?

          I had always assumed Al and Mike were given royaltees just to make it more of a 'band' atmosphere, but never really had much imput.
          Supposedly, according to my memory of an interview read long ago, Mike and Al's part was to tweak, and to provide critical feedback of, the stuff Ed and Dave wrote...

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          • Ellyllions
            Veteran
            • Mar 2006
            • 2012

            #6
            Re: Van Halen Angers Fans With Anthony Snubs

            Originally posted by Nickdfresh
            08/20/07
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            (antiMusic)


            However, Michael McDonald is missing from the credits for the track "I'll Wait". A check of other Van Halen releases still list Anthony as a co-writer.

            ...ummm?
            "If our country is worth dying for in time of war let us resolve that it is truly worth living for in time of peace." - Hamilton Fish

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            • Warham
              DIAMOND STATUS
              • Mar 2004
              • 14589

              #7
              I'd like to know where the author of the article went to find out the fans' views and opinions that Anthony was out of the band. You might get a different reaction depending on which places you visited.

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              • Warham
                DIAMOND STATUS
                • Mar 2004
                • 14589

                #8
                Re: Re: Van Halen Angers Fans With Anthony Snubs

                Originally posted by Ellyllions
                ...ummm?
                He probably added a word or two.

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                • Ellyllions
                  Veteran
                  • Mar 2006
                  • 2012

                  #9
                  Michael McDonald?

                  BWAHAHAHA!

                  you serious?
                  "If our country is worth dying for in time of war let us resolve that it is truly worth living for in time of peace." - Hamilton Fish

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                  • Warham
                    DIAMOND STATUS
                    • Mar 2004
                    • 14589

                    #10
                    I guess. Maybe he and Eddie went on a lost weekend one time in the early 80s.

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                    • Steve Savicki
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 3937

                      #11
                      I feel sorry for Mike in this case.
                      sigpic

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                      • Ellyllions
                        Veteran
                        • Mar 2006
                        • 2012

                        #12
                        I love Michael McDonald. But don't tell my friends.
                        "If our country is worth dying for in time of war let us resolve that it is truly worth living for in time of peace." - Hamilton Fish

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                        • SammySucks1984
                          Head Fluffer
                          • Feb 2005
                          • 396

                          #13
                          I could honestly give a shit... he's resorted to selling hot sauce and has completely sold out to sammy
                          Why do women need driver's Licenses? there aren't many roads between the bedroom and the kitchen.

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                          • Ellyllions
                            Veteran
                            • Mar 2006
                            • 2012

                            #14
                            Eh, he's a grown man who made his own decision about his rights to the songs.

                            You honestly can't fault him or the band for it. He made a conscious decision and that's that.
                            "If our country is worth dying for in time of war let us resolve that it is truly worth living for in time of peace." - Hamilton Fish

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                            • DrMaddVibe
                              ROTH ARMY ELITE
                              • Jan 2004
                              • 6686

                              #15
                              Re: Van Halen Angers Fans With Anthony Snubs

                              Originally posted by Nickdfresh
                              08/20/07
                              .
                              (antiMusic) Van Halen fans were ecstatic when the band announced that they will be returning to the stage this fall with their original frontman David Lee Roth. Some fans were disappointed that original bassist Michael Anthony will not be a part of the reunion with Eddie Van Halen's son Wolfgang taking his place. That disappointment turned into anger when Anthony's image was replaced with Wolfgang on album artwork posted on the band's website. Although, the original images were quickly reinstated, now fans are angry that Anthony is being written out of the band's songwriting history.

                              A fan wrote us on Saturday with the following: "On every single Van Halen song (with exception to the three new songs on the Best of Both Worlds compilation, ) credits have always gone to Eddie Van Halen, Alex Van Halen, Michael Anthony, and the lead singer who is featured on the song (Roth/Hagar/Cherone). However, during the credits of the film 'Superbad', which features the song 'Panama', the song is only credited to the two Van Halens and Roth! Anthony continues to get snubbed by his former band as they attempt to erase him from the history of the band."

                              We looked a little further into this and discovered that Anthony has been removed from the credits for all of the songs from the band's Diamond Award winning album 1984 in the ASCAP database. The All Music Guide credits for the songs on the album include Anthony, Eddie, Alex, and Roth. However, Michael McDonald is missing from the credits for the track "I'll Wait". A check of other Van Halen releases still list Anthony as a co-writer.

                              Anthony was reportedly forced to sign a reduced royalty contract in order to take part in the 2004 reunion tour with Sammy Hagar. His Wikipedia entry states" For the band's reunion in 2004, Anthony was not allowed to write/record the three new songs for The Best of Both Worlds. This time however, he was [correctly] not credited for songwriting involvement. The album's credits don't mention his non-involvement in the actual performance however. On a separate reduced royalties contract he performed on the tour however, at Sammy Hagar's insistence. The contract drawn up was for the duration of the tour only, with his role within the band resting in the hands of the Van Halen brothers there after. Throughout this time, and during the Van Halen III period, the public was unaware that Anthony's status within the band was fading over time."

                              STFU!

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                              You whining fucking tool. Whoever decided to let a shitbag like you be a moderator here on a David Lee Roth forum fucked up so bad that I really hope they're reconsidering if it was worth it.

                              Take your angry little Clay Aiken picture posting ass over to antimusic.com where you grabbed this article and fuck a sheep.

                              DAVE OR THE GRAVE SHEEP MUTHAFUCKA!
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