Old VH vs. New VH: Who would win?

[Hardrock69]

This thought occured to me when seeing posts like:

"They will be better than you expect them to be"

when discussing the current tour.


I saw them in 78, 80, 81 & 83.

They are minus one original guy.


In 78 especially they were out to murderize every band they opened for, with the eventual goal of ruling the world.

Meaning they were "hungry".

Now, considering it has been 22 years since they last played together, and have a replacement, I will say this:

I must give it to the original VH in a head to head comparison. Hands down. End of fucking story.

For obvious reasons.

That said, this tour is going to demonstrate to the world what a real rock band can do.

Dave will have the crowd eating out of the palm of his hand, which is exactly the way it should be.

And I predict this:

Lotsa peeps bitching about bassplayer.

Boo fucking hoo.

Get over it.

The "feel-good" story about this situation is that you have Ed's 16-year-old son playing for 12,000 people a night who will be going absolutely apeshit!!!

Of course his first outing with the band he was kinda reserved. Needs to get that confidence that only comes with experience.


But how many rock and roll dads on the planet get to say they play onstage with their own kid????

See what happens, Ed, when you submit to the will of the people?

You get to sell out entire tours, jam with your son every night on the road, and maybe, just maybe, you might be able to get a droolingly slobbery blowjob from Val!!!

:D


But the entire rock world is gonna be digging on the father-son thing....Ed has got to be the happiest goddam motherfucker on the planet right now.

It is enough to make one go
"Awwwww isn't dat speshul...."

:D

And also, there are gonna be flocks of teenagers digging on the fact that someone their age is getting to do something like this.


As with Roth back in the day, all the guys wanted to be him, and all the chicks wanted to screw him.

You KNOW that teenage girls on this tour will be going fucking nuts trying to get at him....hoping to suck his dick!!!!


And this feel-good, father-son story is going to make any public statements by Spamulus Flatulus seem even MORE like the bitching and moaing of a lame, poodle-haired poster boy for mediocre pop music.

Pooor fucking baby.

Cry me a fucking river Spambo.

[if6was9]

Re: Old VH vs. New VH: Who would win?

Originally posted by Hardrock69
But how many rock and roll dads on the planet get to say they play onstage with their own kid????

And imagine how happy and proud Wolf has to be. Playing with world's best guitarist who happens to be his own father. Wow!

[light 'em up!]

Re: Old VH vs. New VH: Who would win?

Originally posted by Hardrock69
Old VH vs. New VH: Who would win?

I think it's unfair to compare the two.

However, it would be entirely fair to compare the 2007 tour with the 2004 tour.

Morespecifically, I am thinking about Sam in his Ronald MacDonald suit singing poundflake falling on stage, rolling around and exposing his jelly roll while not having the energy to finish the tune.

[Nitro Express]

The old Van Halen was drunken debauchery mingled with seriouse musicianship and showmanship.

The current Van Halen is sober but still seriouse about the music. It's very different and not in a bad way. The three guys with instruments groove real well with each other and the frontman is an obviouse pro that knows what he is doing.

The rock and roll clown of the past grew up and he still cool.

[Baby's On Fire]

It's a really simple question. There's no need for excuses:

Classic VH wipes the floor with this 2007 version.

Of course, I would never expect otherwise. They are 25 years older. Not bad considering that.

But anyone who thinks they are better then ever just isn't honest. It ain't even close.

[Jurak]

Re: Re: Old VH vs. New VH: Who would win?

Originally posted by light 'em up!
I think it's unfair to compare the two.

However, it would be entirely fair to compare the 2007 tour with the 2004 tour.

Morespecifically, I am thinking about Sam in his Ronald MacDonald suit singing poundflake falling on stage, rolling around and exposing his jelly roll while not having the energy to finish the tune.

that's the funniest shit i've read today!! :D

[lafours]

theres no comparison..the classic VH era leaves the new tour in the dust.. EVH was at the top of his game, DLR epitomized youth and rock and roll and the band was ready to take on the world...

but that doesn't mean this still isnt a worthy celebration of a great catalog of music..they sound good for 50 year old guys playing youthful rock...

The police was the same way...sounded great , but played with a matureness and less energy than there heydey. But still an excellent show

[Ellyllions]

If you don't go see the show, or haven't seen the show yet, you shouldn't open your mouth.

That's all I'm saying.

Feet aren't good in the mouth.

[SparkieD]

Originally posted by Ellyllions
If you don't go see the show, or haven't seen the show yet, you shouldn't open your mouth.

That's all I'm saying.

Feet aren't good in the mouth.

But alotta people here lately have been talkin' 'bout how tasty crow is

[ace diamond]

OPEN FOOT INSERT MOUTH.........HOPE THAT CROW TASTES MIGHTY FUCKIN' GODD THERE SPAMBONECHEDHEAD!!!!
WHAT A PRICK!

SPAMMY NEEDS TO SHUT THE FUCK UP.SAME GOES FOR MIKE ANTHONY.
SHUT THE FUCK UP.

[Baby's On Fire]

Originally posted by Ellyllions
If you don't go see the show, or haven't seen the show yet, you shouldn't open your mouth.

That's all I'm saying.

Feet aren't good in the mouth.

You don't need to see the show to compare boots.

Anyone who thinks this is better than ever is either delusional or full of shit.

Enough of the apologists already.

It isn't even the same band. Same names, different sound. Different energy.

Still worth seeing, but to compare with early VH is ridiculous.

Just listen to Dave's voice, then listen to boots of the 80's. It's not the same voice, and neither is the performance.

Eddie isn't so impressive either.

[LOS35]

There's no comparison! We're talking almost 30yrs ago when they were youngens running wild, bouncing off the ceiling & walls!
And far as Dave's voice is concerned, after all those screams & yells over the years of course took a toll on his voice.

[BlimpyCHIMP™]

MIKE COULD TAKE WVHs PUNCHS NOT THE REVERSE

BC!!
PUNCH EVERYBODY ONSTAGE FUCKEM

[naturochem]

CVH LIVE (Oakland/SF) '78, '79(X2), '80(X2), '81(X3), '82 & '84.

Comparing the "now" to the "then" requires far more than audio from a boot!! They may have something left to prove, but NOTHING like they did in 1978 when the band was out to tear the earth a NEW fucking asshole!!!

In '78, opening for Sabbath with just the one (full) album under their belt, nothing to lose & EVERYTHING to gain, they BLEW the fucking ROOF off of the Coliseum in Oakland, and then completely BLEW Black Sabbath right off of the fuckin' stage!!!

Yeah, we had the one album (which ended up changing music forever..) resulting in hundreds of hours listening to, & trying to figure out how the fuck that skinny little guitar player got those unbelievable sounds out of his rig!! Those album photo's of Dave surely raised an eyebrow as well...

I remember the anticipation leading up to the gig - could this band actually duplicate the vinyl cuts we'd listened to all of those hours?? Also, remember....being ~16 & heading to see Sabbath for the 1st time in the 70's was a fairly significant event for a young musician/stoner!! Hell, it's fuckin' Ozzy for fuckssake!!!

In my four+ decades on earth, there has been no experience to even remotely compare to the earthshattering, earsplitting feeling that was Van Halen, LIVE in 1978!!! I've been shot at, fought competitively (& in more than a few bar's..), & even played at several respectable gig's of my own... but all of this pales in comparison to witnessing the mighty VH several yards from the stage for the 1st time -- seeing that motherfucker get 10 feet of air off the drum riser, doing the toe touch was life changing in itself!!

The next year, VH headlining at the Oakland Auditorium was incredible as well, but...like your 1st pounding of the pussy, you'll never have that 1st, once-in-a-lifetime feeling ever again!!!

Try to get that from a fuckin' boot, brah!!!!

[FORD]

Any great band or performer in their 20's is probably going to turn in a more energetic performance than in their 50's.

That's just a fucking fact of life.

Naturally, Van HALEN 1982 would beat Van HALEN 2007.

And Michael Anthony ain't the reason. Biology is.

But as far as veteran bands made up of 50 somethings go, I'd put Van HALEN 2007 up against any of them, from what I've heard so far. And I'll add the definitive confirmation of that exactly 2 months from today.