Van Halen removes Michael Anthony from Song writing credits!

[Nickdfresh]

WAR -Well you've already written some about the 2004 period...

In any case, Mike was also in Van Halen in the 1977-1984 period. Trying to remove him from that as much as legally can be gotten away with should get Ed the Mr.Douchebag 2007 award...

And I think it would be proof that Dave has become his muzzled bitch, as I cannot believe that Dave, Al, or even Wolfgang would be on board with this shit without some trepidation...

Shame on all of them...

And as for Mike allowing this to happen, even if only his name won't be used on song credits on a soundtrack for a teen comedy - we'll that's dumb.

But just because (Edwad) CAN do something doesn't mean he SHOULD do something like this...

I'm pretty much done buying any new "Van Halen" products, unless it's live material from the era of 1974-1984...

[Warham]

Dave just wants to play with Ed. I don't think he really gives two shits about Michael Anthony, besides the history.

[Hyman Roth]

Dave a muzzeled bitch? How dare you.

http://media.putfile.com/Van-Halen-Charlotte-092707-1

[PlexiBrown]

Originally posted by WAR
Dave just wants to play with Ed. I don't think he really gives two shits about Michael Anthony, besides the history.

I think that you are right. Also, it is sounding pretty fucking good and they are playing to packed arenas with the fans really into it.

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by WAR
Dave just wants to play with Ed. I don't think he really gives two shits about Michael Anthony, besides the history.

That's fine. But I think you mean he wants to clean up the money from this tour and pad his retirement fund - has little to do with the nostalgia for the good ol' days of playing with a temperamental prodigy-drunk he rarely got along with anyways...

Originally posted by Hyman Roth
Dave a muzzeled bitch? How dare you.

http://media.putfile.com/Van-Halen-Charlotte-092707-1

Because he's just dismissed it and gone along with everything.

These shows are largely devoid of Dave'ism-monologues and even his press conference stuff was oddly repressed and he seemed to be repeating his boasts made after the MTV 1996 debacle, where Dave had one plan, and the guys with the actual "keys" had another...

In any case, Dave said on his show he wanted a complete reunion...Just as Ed said he'd never do a "nostalgia tour."

They're both full of shit, and it's all about money and pumping up Wolfgang's fat ass...

[Warham]

I'm not sure. Maybe Dave is nostalgic about playing with Ed. Maybe he is trying to pad his retirement fund at the same time. Maybe he's not nostalgic about Mike because Mike wasn't involved in the creative process. Who knows.

Dave probably doesn't do any of his raps, etc, because he doesn't want to piss Ed off. If that's Dave's way of bending over and grabbing the ankles to complete a tour and possibly work together with Ed in the future, maybe he thinks it's worth it. He's probably reached an age where he says 'fuck it' with the ego-driven behavior. Maybe he'd just rather hand the keys over to Ed at this point.

Maybe the stuff about reunions, etc, just isn't possible any longer, and Dave's just going along for the ride.

Lots of rock acts have said stupid stuff, done stupid stuff, and have just plain been assholes over the years. Van Halen is no different.

(Of course, being a Beach Boys fan, I see things with a different perspective than some. There's not a bigger American soap opera than those guys.)

[Dave's PA Rental]

I think that it bothers me more (if it happens) if they remove MA from the album graphics...I don't know why...

The whole thing is too fucking petty and lame.

Eddie, its great that you finally have your kid in the band with you...but trying to erase the past is just sad.

[PlexiBrown]

People change and also sometimes relationships become obsolete. Such is life. There are 20,000 people at each show having a great time. Isn't that what rock is all about? The attendace at these shows and the fans reaction at these shows speaks volumes. People would like Mike there but the fact that he isn't there is NOT hurting this tour or fan reaction at the shows. Even leaving the arena I couldn't believe how loud and pumped the fans still were!

[Nickdfresh]

We're not talking about what appears to be little more than a one-off "nostalgia tour" here, which in the end will be pretty forgettable. We're talking about a band's legacy, and even perhaps what could have been if they weren't such obstinate, reticent assholes (and yes, I mean collectively).

[PlexiBrown]

and even perhaps what could have been if they weren't such obstinate, reticent assholes (and yes, I mean collectively).

I hear what you are saying but what is the point of being concerned over what could have been? It's done. I would have thought that if there were so many fed up fans that Van Halen would be playing to half empty arenas on this tour.

[Warham]

I don't think this affects the band's legacy at all. Anthony getting kicked out is an afternote, especially after all these years.

Their legacy has already been shaped, for good or bad. They will always be remembered as a upper second tier American band, right in the same group as Aerosmith. Nothing they do now will really alter it much.

[Hyman Roth]

Originally posted by Nickdfresh
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Because he's just dismissed it and gone along with everything.

...

Did you see the putfile video I linked? I was being facetious. I don't
know what Ed was barking at Dave about at the beginning of 'So this is
love' during that first show....but if we could get a frame by frame
analysis of the look on Dave's face while he is spinning away from Ed,
it might be interesting...

[Hyman Roth]

..

[hotdog@ a shake]

I saw that clip ...

It appears Dave was Like, "Yeh, whatever Ed ..."

[WARF]

Give this nigga a sticky!!!