Tuning Issues W/ Frankenstrats??

[steve]

I am a mediocre guitar player at best (OK, make that piss poor), but it's apparent that Eddie's guitar goes out of wack at the end of Little guitars here:

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Dave sounds GREAT, but the guitar at the end is nausiating and you can hear certain strings went out...seems like this has happened many times.

Should Ed ditch the Frankies and stick with the Peavy WG (or whatever other guitars he is using, which sound FANTASTIC (ie: on I'm the one, etc)) ??

[hain23x]

if that's from the Rosemont show, there's a moment in there where he's looking over at the tech with this half smile of "i'm going to kill you"

[ace diamond]

wrong forum........move to gear street.

[Diamondjimi]

The neck most likely shifted during one of his jumps.....

[steve]

This isn't a gear street thread, IMHO. This is just a layman's "damn...the Frankie goes out of tune every time Ed jumps" thread. methinks it shoudl stay where guitar-dummies like me will actually read it.

[ace diamond]

ok.....now that you put it that way.......cheers steve!

[jhale667]

Originally posted by diamondjimi
The neck most likely shifted during one of his jumps.....

Bingo.

Considering (for the uninitated)since the other guitars he's playing have the exact same bridge system installed, it's not "the Frankenstrats" - one is no more or less vulnerable to shifts than the other.

And the new WGs are Fenders.

[jhale667]

Totally just pushed this thread over the "Gear Street" cliff, huh?
Oopsie!

[naturochem]

Originally posted by jhale667
Bingo.

Considering (for the uninitated)since the other guitars he's playing have the exact same bridge system installed, it's not "the Frankenstrats" - one is no more or less vulnerable to shifts than the other.

And the new WGs are Fenders.
Totally just pushed this thread over the "Gear Street" cliff, huh?

Well, since we've jumped...

I'm not near the gear-head I used to be, & thus haven't followed all of Ed's guitar detail like I used to....but it does seem, from the few "off" clip's I've caught, that the Frankie's seem a bit more unstable than the WG's(?)

Could this be attributable to a neck/truss rod issue w/ the Frankie's, in lieu of a bridge problem which would be evident in both? Or is it just coincidence that the Frank's seem to be more problematic thus far??

[Diamondjimi]

Originally posted by naturochem
but it does seem, from the few "off" clip's I've caught, that the Frankie's seem a bit more unstable than the WG's(?)

Could this be attributable to a neck/truss rod issue w/ the Frankie's, in lieu of a bridge problem which would be evident in both? Or is it just coincidence that the Frank's seem to be more problematic thus far??

The Frankie he uses for Little Guitars is a 3/4 scale version. Being a smaller guitar and having a bolt on neck+Floyd Rose coupled with the fact that the chords he's playing are in the first position (when jumping up and down) is a stong formula for a neck to shift.

Back on the Diver Down tour he used a mini Les Paul with a set neck and no Floyd. No issues from jumping.

I personally hate seeing him play WG models onstage with Dave.

Anything but those ugly fuckers!

And yeah , ship this fucker to Gear Street...........

[Diamondjimi]

Originally posted by steve
This isn't a gear street thread, IMHO. This is just a layman's "damn...the Frankie goes out of tune every time Ed jumps" thread. methinks it shoudl stay where guitar-dummies like me will actually read it.

Well how 'bout we have someone call you when it gets there !

[jhale667]

Originally posted by diamondjimi

Back on the Diver Down tour he used a mini Les Paul with a set neck and no Floyd. No issues from jumping.

Exactly. What happened to the "little" guitar in that pic from his guitar rack at rehearsals?

I personally hate seeing him play WG models onstage with Dave.

Anything but those ugly fuckers!

And yeah , ship this fucker to Gear Street...........

Same here. That body style (apart from my personal distaste for it) reminds me of the Spam days...just does.
I think of Eddie playing CVH tunes, I wanna see him playing a Strat body...:D

[jhale667]

Originally posted by naturochem
Well, since we've jumped...

....but it does seem, from the few "off" clip's I've caught, that the Frankie's seem a bit more unstable than the WG's(?)

Could this be attributable to a neck/truss rod issue w/ the Frankie's, in lieu of a bridge problem which would be evident in both? Or is it just coincidence that the Frank's seem to be more problematic thus far??

Theoretically, they're all bolt-on necked instruments with Floyd Rose bridges. Assuming the necks are all 4-bolt assemblies, they should all be equally stable.

Who's his new tech, anyway?

And oh yeah, is it 100% certainty that the neck on the mini-LP was set?
I've seen many a mini-bolt-on neck version, but never a set neck one.
Also the mini LP had a trapeze-style bridge, not a locking trem.
Just something else to consider...

[naturochem]

Ya' know, I saw the '82 DD tour two times (back-to-back in SF), & although I wouldn't give odd's, I'd swear that mini-Paul also had a bolt-on...

Admittidly though, those were some HIGHLY fucking unstable times....

[ELVIS]

Originally posted by steve

Dave sounds GREAT, but the guitar at the end is nausiating

Dave sounds about as bad as the guitar on that version...