Piping vocals in - how does it work

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  • Panamark
    DIAMOND STATUS
    • Jan 2004
    • 17161

    #31
    Whatever they are doing, sounds better than they did with
    MA anyhow....

    Flame away !

    Its disgusting that Eddie isnt playing the synth during
    Jump too, if you are into that logic..

    90% of what we are hearing is CVH, and I will take that
    over anything Eddie and Alex have attempted since 1984..
    BABY PANA 2 IS Coming !! All across the land, let the love and beer flow !
    Love ya Mary Frances!

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    • Nickdfresh
      SUPER MODERATOR

      • Oct 2004
      • 49229

      #32
      No. No, the recordings with Micheal Anthony and pre-wastoid Ed playing and singing sound much better...

      I guess what they have is better than nothing, but, certainly not better than things could be...

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      • Panamark
        DIAMOND STATUS
        • Jan 2004
        • 17161

        #33
        Originally posted by Nickdfresh
        No. No, the recordings with Micheal Anthony and pre-wastoid Ed playing and singing sound much better...

        I guess what they have is better than nothing, but, certainly not better than things could be...
        I cant argue with you on this one as I havent heard any
        studio recordings with Wolf and Ed, yet !

        Lets wait until then for that debate
        BABY PANA 2 IS Coming !! All across the land, let the love and beer flow !
        Love ya Mary Frances!

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        • Baby's On Fire
          Veteran
          • May 2004
          • 1747

          #34
          Originally posted by WACF
          It does not matter how they are doing it...the fact is it seems like they are.

          Whether recorded, played or sung offstage it is all doable.

          Nick is right...dump the bass player and this is what you get.

          Whether Ed wants to admit it or not Mike was a very key part of the classic sound.

          If Dave wants to say they are the real deal when it comes down to it($$$$) they will ensure they do what they have to in order to fill those seats and keep them comming.

          Now they deal with it...


          Another week and a half and I get my turn to check it out.

          It has nothing to do with the bass player you morons.

          Eddie is the reason pre-recorded vocals are needed, not Wolfgang.

          You can't be this dumb. Tell me you're play acting.

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          • dave_is_vh
            Sniper
            • Apr 2004
            • 920

            #35
            Originally posted by Baby's On Fire
            It has nothing to do with the bass player you morons.

            Eddie is the reason pre-recorded vocals are needed, not Wolfgang.

            You can't be this dumb. Tell me you're play acting.
            Excellent point.
            "Bumper sticker on my rocket's ass: go home, the earth is full." DLR

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            • Nickdfresh
              SUPER MODERATOR

              • Oct 2004
              • 49229

              #36
              Then why is Ed on the track?

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              • naturochem
                Head Fluffer
                • May 2004
                • 495

                #37
                Show me any band in any genre with this level of production and $$ behind a tour of this magnitude, and I'll assure you that technology will prevail on likely far more than fucking background vocals... and I believe this is all the "cheating" that is happening on this tour...

                If bassplayer would have gotten the call, same end result would have ensued.

                I understand the reservations & displeasure as it relates to the historically "live" feel/promise of all CVH, however, like analog recording, the "EVERYTHING LIVE" tour is simply a thing of the past....

                Digidesign, & Pro Tool's have changed the music world forever...
                CVH LIVE (OAK/SF) '78, '79(X2), '80(X2) +MOR, '81(X3), '82, USFest '83, '84 & 2007!

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                • ELVIS
                  Banned
                  • Dec 2003
                  • 44120

                  #38
                  Originally posted by naturochem
                  Show me any band in any genre with this level of production and $$ behind a tour of this magnitude, and I'll assure you that technology will prevail on likely far more than fucking background vocals...
                  If that were the case, Ozzy weould be singing on the note...


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                  • Panamark
                    DIAMOND STATUS
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 17161

                    #39
                    By the way, if anyone can tell me either the software, sequencer
                    or hardware device that will do both tempo and pitch
                    correction accurately on the fly, live, I want it !!
                    BABY PANA 2 IS Coming !! All across the land, let the love and beer flow !
                    Love ya Mary Frances!

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                    • naturochem
                      Head Fluffer
                      • May 2004
                      • 495

                      #40
                      Originally posted by ELVIS
                      If that were the case, Ozzy weould be singing on the note...

                      Even if it sounds like shit much of the time, you don't believe any of Ozzy's live performance is canned??
                      CVH LIVE (OAK/SF) '78, '79(X2), '80(X2) +MOR, '81(X3), '82, USFest '83, '84 & 2007!

                      http://www.hellsangelsmcoakland.com/...Support-V2.jpg

                      "God rest the souls of that poor family... and pussy's half price for the next 15 minutes." Al Swearengen

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                      • naturochem
                        Head Fluffer
                        • May 2004
                        • 495

                        #41
                        Originally posted by Panamark
                        By the way, if anyone can tell me either the software, sequencer
                        or hardware device that will do both tempo and pitch
                        correction accurately on the fly, live, I want it !!
                        Try an Eventide H8000FW Ultra-Harmonizer Effects Processor, coupled with a Pro Tools HD workstation & I'm sure you'll be able to acomplish duplication of the Mormon Tabernacle's entire new release, or whateverelse suits your fancy...

                        I'm not a certified Pro Tools engineer, but have several friends that are, a few of whom are even virtual magicians with the equipment...

                        As I'm sure you are aware, Pro Tools options are many & quite varied...
                        CVH LIVE (OAK/SF) '78, '79(X2), '80(X2) +MOR, '81(X3), '82, USFest '83, '84 & 2007!

                        http://www.hellsangelsmcoakland.com/...Support-V2.jpg

                        "God rest the souls of that poor family... and pussy's half price for the next 15 minutes." Al Swearengen

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