Disturbing observations from the Hershey, PA Show

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  • Zyth
    Roth Army Recruit
    • Apr 2004
    • 3

    Disturbing observations from the Hershey, PA Show

    Here are some disturbing observations from posters at the links who saw the Hershey, PA show. While a few of these observations were not worrisome/offensive to the poster(s) they sure were to me.

    (1) Alienate fans much?...

    "One more thing. They were handing out free papers to everyone and on the front page it had a color picture of the new logo and band photo. Underneath this reads as follows, which i thought was really cool:

    "From the moment Edward Van Halen kicked cancer in 2002, a reunion of the "real Van Halen seemed inevitable. Whether this is actually it depends on the flavor of Van Halen that best suits you. This isn't the vanilla of Gary Cherone, a fine singer in over his head in the late 90's, trying to lead a veteran band that had alrady sold nearly 50 million records. Neither is it the spumoni of Diamond David Lee Roth, who took himself out of the game by suing the band, then portraying himself as it's heart and soul, even though it's been 19 years since he left them(aside form the ill-fated reunion of 1995). Tonight's show, my friends, is from the rum-raisin' Van Halen, with the social director ofCabo San Lucas, Sammy Hagar, keeping things wild, fun and slightly more sane than Diamond Dave.""

    (2) More fan alienation...

    "Soundcheck was AWESOME... they played Jump, Humans Being, Learning to See, and It's About Time... Ed and Mikey were goofing the WHOLE time... makin' fun of dave... they were making indian noises and shit during Jump at the soundcheck..."

    (3) Someone on Ed...

    "I think Eddie was really energetic, jumping and running around. But the smoking thing is ridiculous. Also, I saw him drinking from a water bottle with something red in it. At first I thought, "Maybe it's Gatorade" or something. But Eddie came out really early at the start, Kevin Dugan was still on stage with Mike's bass and Al wasn't even at the drums yet. So I was giving Eddie the benefit of the doubt. Well, from our seat angle, I saw Ed go behind his amps several times and get a bottle of wine from a roadie and chug it down (I saw him pull the cork and everything). I can't tell you how disappointing this was for me. I thought he played sloppy at times, and seems less concerned with playing the songs well as he does with entertaining himself with noodling. I love Ed, he actually looks really good. But I can say I left last night feeling like he wasn't the King anymore. He really jammed for a while on his solo, kind of jazzy sounding, but then the rest was just sustainer screams, not his typical divebombs. He did royally screw up the intro to Dreams, but I think his guitar was out of tune or somethin (the intro is played on the high E and B strings). Throughout that song and Ain't Talkin 'Bout Love, he was trying to tune as he'd hit a chord. Maybe it was just an off night, I dunno..."

    (4) Another on Ed...

    "However, I will add that I am saddened by Eddie's life choices. He continues to be a chain smoker. But more disappointing, he is also drinking. He was drinking in his staging area, behind his speaker cabinets. On two occasions, I spotted him drinking from a wine bottle. During the soundcheck, he brought a wine bottle on stage and openly drank to a cheering audience. Granted, he is an adult and can make his own choices, but he is wasting his talent and not growing old gracefully. A hip replacement, cancer and a divorce were not able to gain his attention. I wonder if anything will.

    I hope that the road won't do him in on this tour."

    (5) Yet another on Ed...

    "Ed threw us probably 100 picks before the show even started... showed us the marker reminders on the top of the neck of his guitar... (for you players, he had frets 5, 9, 12, and 15 marked off). One funny thing - Ed SERIOUSLY fucked up the intro to Dreams... he mouthed "OH FUCK" directly to the front couple of rows and him and Sammy were laughing about it for a while..."
  • MAX
    Rotharmy Gladiator

    DIAMOND STATUS
    • Jan 2004
    • 13001

    #2
    Yep, my specultaion was correct. Fuckin' Ed was drunk. Who wrote the "manifesto?" It had to come from Spammy's camp just cos of the ice cream flavor references.

    This one I love:

    " Tonight's show, my friends, is from the rum-raisin' Van Halen, with the social director ofCabo San Lucas, Sammy Hagar, keeping things wild, fun and slightly more sane than Diamond Dave."
    Hey Spammy, The Mighty Van Halen WAS INSANE YOU FUCKING TOOL!!!!

    Go eat a few more meatball and cheeeeeese subs you bile sweating fatass!!!
    EAT US AND SMILE!!!!

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    • RogueHorseman
      Commando
      • Apr 2004
      • 1298

      #3
      Disgusting, really...
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      • BARE BONE
        Foot Soldier
        • Mar 2004
        • 695

        #4
        .
        Everytime I think I've reached the buttom someone hands me a shovel.

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        • Fabulous Shadow

          #5
          Tisk tisk tisk... BUMMER

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          • rustoffa
            ROTH ARMY SUPREME
            • Jan 2004
            • 8963

            #6
            This was my favorite:
            "He did royally screw up the intro to Dreams, but I think his guitar was out of tune or somethin"
            Poor idiot........

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            • RogueHorseman
              Commando
              • Apr 2004
              • 1298

              #7
              Originally posted by Fabulous Shadow
              Tisk tisk tisk... BUMMER
              Nice gams there, Shadow.
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              • Fabulous Shadow

                #8
                Wrong thread RH but thanks.. I guess...

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                • RogueHorseman
                  Commando
                  • Apr 2004
                  • 1298

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Fabulous Shadow
                  Wrong thread RH but thanks.. I guess...
                  Just an observation in regards to the avitar...
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                  • POJO_Risin
                    Roth Army Caesar
                    • Mar 2003
                    • 40648

                    #10
                    Hmmm...well...

                    The band passing out propaganda to the front two rows about why Hagar is better than Roth?

                    The fucking BAND PASSING OUT PROPAGANDA TRYING TO CHANGE THE MINDS OF HAGAR FANS THAT HAGAR IS BETTER????

                    Jesus Christ...after one show they realized that people wanted Roth instead of Hagar...

                    that truly is sad...but the truth...

                    good to see the band knows that already..
                    "Van Halen was one of the most hallelujah, tailgate, backyard, BBQ, arrive four hours early to the gig just for the parking lot bands. And still to this day is. It's an attitude. I think it's a spirit more than anything else is."

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                    • MAX
                      Rotharmy Gladiator

                      DIAMOND STATUS
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 13001

                      #11
                      Originally posted by POJO_Risin
                      Hmmm...well...

                      The band passing out propaganda to the front two rows about why Hagar is better than Roth?

                      Sonds like Roy McHagarsim? Do they now include the "black(RED)list" in Happy Fucking Meals?
                      EAT US AND SMILE!!!!

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                      • Bill Lumbergh
                        ROCKSTAR

                        • Mar 2004
                        • 5472

                        #12
                        Damn that fat motherfucker is insecure. He knows who the fucking king is............Oh and then there's this........Dave IS the fucking HEART AND SOUL of VH.............Spam is the anus.........

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                        • Panamark
                          DIAMOND STATUS
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 17161

                          #13
                          Was that propoganda official ?? Thats just totally bizarre.
                          BABY PANA 2 IS Coming !! All across the land, let the love and beer flow !
                          Love ya Mary Frances!

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                          • Mama's Fool
                            Head Fluffer
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 200

                            #14
                            Another observation:

                            Was reading some of the reviews and I was startled by the low attendence. The stadium at Hershey holds about 33,000 or so for a full sold out show. From what I saw in the reviews there were only about 12 or 14 thousand people there. They have quite a few seats with black tarps over them. I doubt attendence will get better as the tour goes on.
                            That was only the second night of the tour and they weren't even close to selling even half the joint.
                            Bon Jovi sold more seats there two years ago.

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