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  • cadaverdog
    ROTH ARMY SUPREME
    • Aug 2007
    • 8955

    #16
    Originally posted by Matt White
    ITS BETTER TO BURN OUT THAN FADE AWAY....
    In other words die young and leave a good looking corpse?
    It won't look good for long.
    Beware of Dog

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    • cadaverdog
      ROTH ARMY SUPREME
      • Aug 2007
      • 8955

      #17
      Originally posted by eddie78
      Excellent post, man!

      What if VH winds up with either Bob R(C)ock or Rick Rubin?
      Have you ever heard the complete recording of Queens "We Will Rock You".
      I heard it once on the radio .
      And then while searching for that extended version I found a version
      that said ruined by Rick Rubin.
      It was the extended version but "scratching " was added.
      Not familiar with Bob Rock , whose music did he ruin?
      Beware of Dog

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      • eddie78
        Head Fluffer
        • Nov 2004
        • 301

        #18
        It's got merit, though.

        Look at Aerosmith post 1979.

        I wish Steven & Joe had O.D.'d after the mighty Joe Perry Project's first two records.
        These guys are just horrible today, consumed by their own fame.
        Steven is like a living caricature of his old, cool self.

        VH peaked with Fair Warning in my mind.
        That Tour seemed to eclipse everything else they would later do.
        Ed never sounded more inspired, his virtuosity in full flight.
        Dave was the epitome of the Rock God in those Oakland clips.
        The stage, the music, the fans....

        Take me back to 1981, though i'd be about 9.

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        • eddie78
          Head Fluffer
          • Nov 2004
          • 301

          #19
          Originally posted by cadaverdog
          Have you ever heard the complete recording of Queens "We Will Rock You".
          I heard it once on the radio .
          And then while searching for that extended version I found a version
          that said ruined by Rick Rubin.
          It was the extended version but "scratching " was added.
          Not familiar with Bob Rock , whose music did he ruin?
          Bob Cock ruined Motley Crue & Later, Metallica.

          Many will disagree with me, but 'Tallica peaked with Lightning & Puppets.
          The sound on those records define metal to me.

          When Bob jumped aboard, everything got looser & sloppier.

          He also overproduced Motley, to my ears.
          From sleaze to cheese, all the way.

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          • cadaverdog
            ROTH ARMY SUPREME
            • Aug 2007
            • 8955

            #20
            Originally posted by eddie78
            It's got merit, though.

            Look at Aerosmith post 1979.

            I wish Steven & Joe had O.D.'d after the mighty Joe Perry Project's first two records.
            These guys are just horrible today, consumed by their own fame.
            Steven is like a living caricature of his old, cool self.

            VH peaked with Fair Warning in my mind.
            That Tour seemed to eclipse everything else they would later do.
            Ed never sounded more inspired, his virtuosity in full flight.
            Dave was the epitome of the Rock God in those Oakland clips.
            The stage, the music, the fans....

            Take me back to 1981, though i'd be about 9.
            I agree Van halen last album 1984 was too Mtv for my liking.
            And only the really early Aerosmith(pre Rocks)was the shit .
            I was a big Zep fan but "In through the out door" was a major dissapointment after the hard rockin' "prescense"(probably misspelled)
            I get a giggle out of "hot dog"But the rest was crap.
            Only a few bands stick with the sound that made them.
            Skynrd, The Who , AC/ DC.
            But most feel thet must evolve.
            The Stones try at disco with " I Miss You" comes to mind .
            At the time it was Rock vs Disco and the Stones were considered the Benedict Arnolds of rock.
            I felt the same way about "Jump" and "Panama".
            Although my dislike of a lot of shit is softened when I hear what passes for music now.
            Hell I even dig the old motown stuff now.
            Beware of Dog

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            • cadaverdog
              ROTH ARMY SUPREME
              • Aug 2007
              • 8955

              #21
              Originally posted by eddie78
              It's got merit, though.

              Look at Aerosmith post 1979.

              I wish Steven & Joe had O.D.'d after the mighty Joe Perry Project's first two records.
              These guys are just horrible today, consumed by their own fame.
              Steven is like a living caricature of his old, cool self.

              VH peaked with Fair Warning in my mind.
              That Tour seemed to eclipse everything else they would later do.
              Ed never sounded more inspired, his virtuosity in full flight.
              Dave was the epitome of the Rock God in those Oakland clips.
              The stage, the music, the fans....

              Take me back to 1981, though i'd be about 9.
              I agree Van halen last album 1984 was too Mtv for my liking.
              And only the really early Aerosmith(pre Rocks)was the shit .
              I was a big Zep fan but "In through the out door" was a major dissapointment after the hard rockin' "prescense"(probably misspelled)
              I get a giggle out of "hot dog"But the rest was crap.
              Only a few bands stick with the sound that made them.
              Skynrd, The Who , AC/ DC.
              But most feel thet must evolve.
              The Stones try at disco with " I Miss You" comes to mind .
              At the time it was Rock vs Disco and the Stones were considered the Benedict Arnolds of rock.
              I felt the same way about "Jump" and "Panama".
              Van Halen goes Mtv.
              Although my dislike of a lot of shit is softened when I hear what passes for music now.
              Hell I even dig the old motown stuff now.
              Beware of Dog

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              • Matt White
                • Jun 2004
                • 20569

                #22
                Originally posted by cadaverdog
                Hell I even dig the old motown stuff now.


                Wow...how "cosmopolitan" of you.....

                next thing you know...you'll consider letting women vote....

                :p

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                • GaPeach64
                  Full On Cocktard
                  • Feb 2008
                  • 24

                  #23
                  I read Dave's book over the Christmas holidays. The Reunion Blues chapter was a pretty good one. Ed refused to rehearse any old VH music with Dave to prepare for this Greatest Hits project. Dave hadn't sung in 6 mos and just wanted to exercise his voice. Ed wanted to do new music. This is how Dave goes p334

                  [quote] Trouble is, you can't sing an unwritten song. You can't build muscles on an unwritten song. The lyrics aren't in place. You don't know what the next lyric is, and I'm not going to know until the producer is in there. He's going to earn his percentage, because he's going to make as much as me in the end. So let's have some of that melodic expertise. Cool.
                  Work on some playes tha you already know, guys, that's how you build the team. but when we actually began rehearsing I was banished to a storeroom in the back of the studio, a windowless cement box where I could see nothing and hear nothing except over my headsets. They would push a button to talk to me. They would run through these new songs and I would sing along back there in my cement bunker.
                  So I brought in five potted palm trees and some clamp lights, oranges and yelllows, and made a little Club Dave with a big glass ashtray I stole from a British hotel.
                  Hey, if I'm working in Ice Station Zebra I'm gonna make it comfortable. All right, this is a test. God and his five angels are testing me. The potted palms. Oh, my God. Alex Van Halen screaming at Big Ed as they bring these things in. My guys take pride in their stuff because it's colorful, it's eccentric. We built an oasis, and we said all were invited. Where do you think the crew hung out when we took a break? Club Dave.
                  [Alex freaks out all over Dave here.... f**** this and that]
                  And I stay cool. I start showing up with my lyrics, and they're dismissed out of hand, one right after the other. Edward Van Halen would hold the paper in front of his face, stare right into the middle and go, "I don't know."
                  Edward doesn't read. It's a muscle he doesn't use. He can't read a whole set of my lyrics in seven seconds. Some of my stuff you'll be figuring out seven years later. It's designed to do that. There's some substance there you know. So first Edward puts me in a room where I've got to make my own environment, now he's looking at the middle of a page, lookin' to put the thumb on me. [unquote]

                  I was so glad I read the book before going to the concert. It was extra amazing for me to see them on the same stage. The book cracked me up. I know it was copywritten in 1998 -- missing some more recent developments. He should do a sequel.

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                  • cadaverdog
                    ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                    • Aug 2007
                    • 8955

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Matt White


                    Wow...how "cosmopolitan" of you.....

                    next thing you know...you'll consider letting women vote....

                    :p
                    Women vote?
                    Hell no.
                    Do that and the next thing you know they'll (is that a word?) want to run for office .
                    Next thing you know black folks will want equal rights.
                    Before you pull the race card , all I meant was I have expanded my musical tastes ,I used to hate country ( and western )too.
                    I grew up admiring hippies and hippy music .
                    Beware of Dog

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                    • Terry
                      DIAMOND STATUS
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 12222

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Matt White


                      Wow...how "cosmopolitan" of you.....

                      next thing you know...you'll consider letting women vote....

                      :p
                      Don't be silly
                      Scramby eggs and bacon.

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