Van Halen tour cancelled.

[LittleDreamerVH]

Umm yeah I beg to differ. Everyone has their opinion on who is really the greatest guitar player in the world, and I'm proud to say that I stand amongst the people who put Eddie on that pedestal. You're right, Vaughan is epic, but I lay it all down to the fingers of Eddie. And since you're on a Roth Army website.. you might wanna lay blackballing Diamond Dave... I love the man, his voice, his stage charisma. Back to the beginning topic of this thread, (and the more important issue), I'm not wanting to see VH leave the stage so soon after just getting out on tour, it's a big let down. Rumors are still floating obviously... but I think we can all honestly look at this and say "Damn, it's too bad." I mean if the guys are fighting and shit like that then it ain't worth it, not at all, it's just after 20 years of hibernation it's all going to end like this? Call me a dreamer, still hopin' some type of magic happens.

[eddie78]

It always bummed me out that SRV got all the accolades, while Johny "Lightning" Winter got the backseat.

Winter was a monster blues virtuoso & monster slide player.
He wasn't doing Hendrix or Albert King, he was doing Johnny Winter.
Rock & Blues, the guy could do it all & do it well, but Blues was in his blood.

'The progressive blues experiment' by Mr. Winter makes 'in step' sound like a Johnny Lang record.

[Ellyllions]

I like the music, not the people.
I don't know them only what I see them do.

[eddie78]

Originally posted by Ellyllions
I like the music, not the people.
I don't know them only what I see them do.

Stevie was a great musician & player, no doubt.

Edward, in his prime (through 81), has never been touched, imo.
Vai, Satriani, Yngwie, etc....
None of those guys had all the musical cards like Ed.
A lot of Ed's techniques were recycled through the Vai's & Satch's, but they were talking Ed's language & communicating with his vocabulary.
Steve Vai may tap more notes, but the technique he's using was a result of VH's impact.

A player like Malmsteen is similar, in many ways.
His ideas were "borrowed" from innovators like Blackmore & Ulrich Roth from early Scorpions.
Yngwie refined the technical aspect of these great players, yet possessed none of their melodic sense or ability to write songs that people, outside guitar circles, want to hear.

But Edward had all the aces: Technique, tone & the talent of a true songwriter.
Plus he had the greatest frontman in David Lee Roth.

[bueno bob]

Originally posted by eddie78
[B]Greater than i will ever be....hmmm, let's ponder this, Bob.[/i]

I've had ample time, trust me.

Originally posted by eddie78
Do you fucking know me? Do you know how brilliant or awful i may be, outside the confines of your army board?

Outside of the board, no...you're not the sort of person I'd socialize with, if your conduct here is any example.

However, since the point in fact was "Better People Than You Will Ever Be Here" ("Here" being the operative word, meaning 'Roth Army Forums'), I stand by my statement. Better people than you will ever be here. Etc etc, entered this day in court, etc.

Originally posted by eddie78
It's absolutely the same as you referring to Ed as a 'piece of shit' human being, though you have never had any sort of relationship with the man.

Same as you to refer to what he wants out of his band, what kind of music he wants to make, etc, as if it's your common knowledge?

Let's see, how do you spell projection again?

Originally posted by eddie78
As for Yngwie, i could honestly give a shit what sort of records you spin in your mom's basement,

Well, you know, it's pretty god damn coincidental that you can't seem to stay away from that name, isn't it?

(Here's where I insert "Do you know me? How do you know anything about me?" in regards to your "Mom's basement" rhetoric, but of course I don't think I have to...)

I think it's VERY clear who has the problem here. You don't want any "challenges" to your hero Eddie, perceived OR real, and you've been bitter about it ever since I whipped your ass in the last round here in Main.

Grow up already.

Originally posted by eddie78
but the 'holier than thou' attitude irks me just a touch.

Good. I'll make sure to keep it up.

Originally posted by eddie78
I certainly think your thread on 'Ed feeling threatened by Yng' (or whatever garbage it was you posted, way back when) illustrates just how musically retarded you truly are.

01. Wasn't my thread, I just kicked your ass in it;

02. "Musically retarded", hunh? You ARE aware that there's more than one way to play a guitar, right? It's not all just tapping...you do know these things, I take it? I'm starting to wonder.

Originally posted by eddie78
With everything that Ed has accomplished, and all the creativity & musical innovation he established, you cannot show the guy, the leader of a band you supposedly love, any respect.

Well, here's the thing - I respected Eddie until 1985, when he ruined Van Halen with...um...his drinking and indifference. I started to respect him again in 1996 for waking up a little. Shortly thereafter, he went back to sleep and I buried Van Halen, the REAL Van Halen, in a basement of fond memories.

As far as showing the guy "respect"? I'm sorry - do I KNOW HIM PERSONALLY? Well, I don't - erego, he doesn't deserve any respect out of me. As an album buyer/ticket purchaser, Eddie Van Halen is MY fucking employee. He works for ME. Since I don't know the man personally, but he does work for ME, I will either support or not support him based on the quality of his work, and for NO OTHER REASON.

I don't owe Eddie Van Halen a fucking thing. Not a lick. Eddie doesn't owe me anything either, since entertainment is an at-will industry for me, but if he wants respect and adoration and all that other Oprah bullshit, than he better do something to impress me.

Now do you understand? Probably not, but it amuses me to point by point demonstrate all of the flaws in your logic, in addition to your Edsheep mentally. Eddie could shit in a bag, show up on your door step and tell you it's the greatest thing he's ever done and you're the sort of person who will buy it gladly and then profess that it is.

That's fine with me. I have a little more discretion.

[eddie78]

I'm constantly amused at 40 something year old man getting some sort of false gratification from "owning" or "kicking someone's ass" on a fan forum.

The most amusing part is that i'm supposedly getting my ass handed to me by a grown man that still listens to Yngwie Malmsteen records!

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!

[eddie78]

Aw, christ, you even have a Star Wars avatar...

This is too easy.

[Ellyllions]

Originally posted by eddie78
Stevie was a great musician & player, no doubt.

Edward, in his prime (through 81), has never been touched, imo.
Vai, Satriani, Yngwie, etc....
None of those guys had all the musical cards like Ed.
A lot of Ed's techniques were recycled through the Vai's & Satch's, but they were talking Ed's language & communicating with his vocabulary.
Steve Vai may tap more notes, but the technique he's using was a result of VH's impact.

A player like Malmsteen is similar, in many ways.
His ideas were "borrowed" from innovators like Blackmore & Ulrich Roth from early Scorpions.
Yngwie refined the technical aspect of these great players, yet possessed none of their melodic sense or ability to write songs that people, outside guitar circles, want to hear.

But Edward had all the aces: Technique, tone & the talent of a true songwriter.
Plus he had the greatest frontman in David Lee Roth.

Keep in mind that there was a dynamic duo from a band that started all of this before Van Halen....

Jimmy Page and Robert Plant ring a bell?

[Va Beach VH Fan]

Closing this one, please use the sticky now.....

Thanks....