Sammy slams Dave again

[TAKIN WHISKEY]

Hagar is such a douche bag. He is truly fucking delusional.

[kwame k]

What would have been the upside to Roth giving a million interviews on the tour?

Every interviewer would ask Roth a bunch of questions about past feuding with the Van Halens, or why Michael Anthony wasn't playing with the band, or why the tour was postponed in the middle / what was Ed's undisclosed illness...

Admittedly, I'd have been interested to hear what Roth had to say about all that stuff, but I could see where it wouldn't be useful from the perspective of Roth and the Van Halens. If the tour rider I read was correct, these guys couldn't even share the same dressing rooms; sounds like they're all still on eggshells with each other.

Plus, Ed's own comments and attitude before the tour started indicated he was willing to work with Roth, but that he didn't view Roth as the only choice to front the band. Kinda leaves me with the indication that Ed and Alex pretty much consider the Van Halen name totally theirs now (which it essentially is, although the currency it carries these days doesn't match up to the legend attached to it), and the band is theirs to do with what they please.

The sisters probably think they did Roth a favor, rather than admit hooking up with Dave was a mutual benefit to all involved (although it did sidetrack Ed from his noble career of drinking, noodling in his home studio and scoring really bad porn flicks - but hey, it didn't slow him down one iota re: slapping the EVH logo on every bit of musical equipment he could find to endorse).

Now they are exactly what Eddie lamented in 1996; a nostalgia band.

As usual, spot on post......Terry. Other than keeping the band in the press, there would be no benefit doing those types of interviews.......It would of destroyed the tour........Something would of set Ed off and that would be the end of the tour or a reason to get so drunk he couldn't play. Yes, the Tour Rider pretty much sums the relationship the band has......minimum exposure between Dave and the rest of the band......it worked, not perfectly but they completed a tour.

[FORD]

They actually have been a nostalgia band since 1996 anyway. VDIII was such a failure they didn't dare build the set list around it, so they sent Cherone out to sing the classics.

Velveetapalooza 2004 certainly wasn't selling what seats it sold based on "Upchuck Your Breakfast" or those other two new pathetic turds Sammy croaked out. Even the Chedheads have their limits, and most of them were disappointed by the show.

And while I was happy to see Van HALEN on stage again, it was more or less the same DLR show as any other tour this decade, just with a better band. Great to see once, but if they do the "go out on the road and play the hits every 5 years" thing with no new music from here on out, they might as well pull the plug. At least the Stones manage to put an album or two every decade before they tour.

[GAR]

Douchebag.

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[78/84 guy]

I'm not sure it was a better band !! Brian Young is pretty good.

[katie]

What would have been the upside to Roth giving a million interviews on the tour?.

Upside - Roth would have been really funny, talking VH up etc,

Downside - Those other VH miserable fucks would insist on being present as well, but as we all know they bring an end to happy hour with every interview they give. Flashbacks of 1998 come to mind.......

The sisters probably think they did Roth a favor, rather than admit hooking up with Dave was a mutual benefit to all involved

In a way this may be correct as Dave's career was was so low, that he was only 2 years away from appearing on 'Dancing with the stars'

Now they are exactly what Eddie lamented in 1996; a nostalgia band.

Time waits for NO band,

Nostalgia aint done The Stones any harm.


Katie

[Diamondjimi]

Douchebag.

You mean big fat 'n sweaty Douchebag...

[Badaxe73]

EL Douche

I guess when the new DLR VH album comes out and tops the charts Spammy can take credit for that 1 to.

what a douche.

[Va Beach VH Fan]

I'm not sure it was a better band !! Brian Young is pretty good.

I was very impressed with Brian the two times I saw him live...

But having said all that, Brian Young is no Edward Van Halen....

[Va Beach VH Fan]

As usual, spot on post......Terry. Other than keeping the band in the press, there would be no benefit doing those types of interviews.......It would of destroyed the tour........Something would of set Ed off and that would be the end of the tour or a reason to get so drunk he couldn't play. Yes, the Tour Rider pretty much sums the relationship the band has......minimum exposure between Dave and the rest of the band......it worked, not perfectly but they completed a tour.

Yeah, but that's just it.... They didn't do ANY press at all...

Sure, interviews at every stop would have eventually gotten really old for the band, but something should have been done at various times during the tour...

[FORD]

I'm not sure it was a better band !! Brian Young is pretty good.

I thought Brian, James Lomenzo, and Ray Luzier played the songs really well. Would have liked to have heard some originals from that band, but for whatever reasons, we only got "Thug Pop", buried in an album of covers.

So it's hard for me to compare them as a band to Van Halen, when they really didn't produce any original music together. And there's a difference between playing songs well, and writing songs well, as Dave & Eddie did.

[Antman]

The real reason Dave didn't show up to the HOF ceremony is simple-HE COULDN'T! After years of trying to get back in VH, he finally does and now he knows he can't let anything fuck it up-like attending the ceremony with Sammy & Mike-2 FORMER members. It's as simple as that let Sammy say what he want and let Dave say what he wants. Dave shows up and we're bitching about singer # 4 on this board. witht he bros. it's always them against us. Either you're with them or your againstthem. Just ask Sam & Mike. And Dave.

[Seshmeister]

I thought Brian, James Lomenzo, and Ray Luzier played the songs really well. Would have liked to have heard some originals from that band, but for whatever reasons, we only got "Thug Pop", buried in an album of covers.

So it's hard for me to compare them as a band to Van Halen, when they really didn't produce any original music together. And there's a difference between playing songs well, and writing songs well, as Dave & Eddie did.

I think the guys point was maybe that if the current Van Halen is now effectively just a nostalgia act then was Roth's solo band not as good as AVH, a past it EVH and his son?

For one thing Roth's solo band didn't need to use tapes for backing vocals and Brian Young never had the 'off' nights like Eddie had during his problems in the first half of the tour.

It's definitely an argument.

[GAR]

I apologize FORD for posting a picture of that RedRocker Dick in main because I forgot the rule "no posting penii in Main forums"

I am sorry. Won't do it again. Just tried to illustrate a picture of a Douchebag so I googled the word and, well look what came up.. a Douchebag DICK.

[GAR]

The real reason Dave didn't show up to the HOF ceremony is simple-

.. because he didn't want to attend if Van Hagar would be inducted also.

Van Hagar is entitled in the year 2010, technically he joined in 1985 on "5150" and you need 25 years to be fair, which he didn't have.

I recall the biggest artists in 1985 were Dio, Def Leppard, Scorpions and Judas Priest. So many other great albums and concerts, so little time for Van Hagar.. they should have had to wait a few more years if they wanted to induct both singers with awards..