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Originally posted by Cato
Golden, why are you FAT?http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u...TheDMCross.jpgOriginally posted by lesfunk
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Originally posted by Cato
Golden, why are you FAT?http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u...TheDMCross.jpgOriginally posted by lesfunk
Much like yourself as the Jim Morrison of Nazi bunker fliesComment
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But he is spEd. He's a great player and I love his stuff, but he's still a shitty human being. Maybe that's not really true, but he's ruined the band and their legacy as much as anyone could...
He hasn't released any original material in over ten years now (except for an instrumental on a porn soundtrack) and has largely pissed his legacy to the point that Rollingstone doesn't even remember how much they sucked his cock in the 80s!Last edited by Nickdfresh; 01-20-2009, 05:55 PM.Comment
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Originally posted by Cato
Golden, why are you FAT?http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u...TheDMCross.jpgOriginally posted by lesfunk
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What is the thrust here? That Ed Van Halen has lost a step (or many)? Hell, who amongst us hasn't over the last twenty years? Look, by no means could anyone confuse me with being some sort of "Ed Apologist", yet why use the Hagar clip as an example? If it's about the cut-off point in the guy's playing, the 1998 tour would serve as a better barometer, where he still had his abilities together.
And along with that manner of thinking, why shouldn't people feel critical of the guy? I do not see the need to martyr his talents (or him, for that matter) when it was the guy himself that squandered them. Yeah, I get it: He created some wonderful music that holds up for those that appreciate it. Yet by the same token I fail to see the need to ponder what could have been at this point.
The fact is, the guy has a legacy, and it's a cryin' shame that he managed to shoot it in the foot. Yet by no means should I feel sorry for the guy for doing so, ya know?
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The "thrust" of this thread is that ED is done. He's old, can't write any more, cant really play any more(The way he did), although I never count him totaly out, I think we can all agree on that.
So that being said, the Van Halen dream is over. I doubt there will be another VH album. Without ED there is no DLR. DLR hasn't done anything in 10 years either, not counting the Blue Grass cover tune thing.
In other words....its OVER.-We have enough youth. How about a fountain of "Smart"?
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Well then.... we can all go home now.
Turn out the lights when you leave.
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Yet you appear to be attempting to have it both ways. On one hand, you are inviting people to "respect" the man's contributions. On the other, you claim him to be washed up, and rather than offering evidence of this, you offer a Hagar era video at a Roth site, then claim the site itself to be unwarranted at this point.
And if you feel the site to be obsolete, would this not make all of the posters here (including yourself) just as obsolete? If so, this would seemingly contradict your desire or need for people to "show him respect", as it is impossible for people's opinions to be simultaneously relevant yet not so.
Perhaps I'm being a bit thick here, yet the logic seems to hold water about as well as a cheese-grater.Last edited by chefcraig; 01-20-2009, 06:42 PM.
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You guy's kill me. I like the line that Ed played more rhythm style after Dave left the band to keep up with the style of the 80's !! Guitar was almost dead in the late 70's and early 80's until he set a new standard of playing. He didn't follow trends he set them !! Ed's playing on 5150 and Balance is just as good as anything on the 6 pack c.d.s I don't care if you don't like the song's or not !! It's not Van Halen, they should have changed the name !! but it's Eddie Van Halen. And I'm a big fan of his best playing and this is some of it. Ed is working at a guitar store early on without Dave's presence in the band, and rock would have been dead without them. Well it seemed to be headed for the grave anyway. And a video from 1981 would have been a better choice !! Eddie's best album as a player hand's down !! And I think the the last tour was pretty good for them even though we all mostly hated the fact Mike wasn't there, Ed had some trouble's but for the most part they were solid. I still watch my boot's and stuff on You Tube here & there and alot of it is great stuff !!Last edited by 78/84 guy; 01-20-2009, 07:02 PM.Comment
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Dave is here to represent....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPUcVhwdCfs
Nuff said...wheres my beer flavored cheerios?Stay frosty now.
Nostalgia is a form of denial. I love denial. I like selective amnesia, too. Mix the two and you've got a hell of a weekend-DLRComment
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When Pioneer developed the remote-unit CD changer for the auto industry they could have stopped at a fair 5-disc cartridge, but they didn't.
Coincidence? I think not. But I fully disagree that Balance has anything to do with what we recall Van Halen to be based on: it's not a loud mix, the guitar's not very percussive nor dynamic; the vocals aren't belligerent nor Cause' Du Celebre.. Du Celerey.. or You Know WTF I'm saying? They're woman friendly lyrics sung by a permed man in Capri shorts better off fronting a cover for Women's Plus Sizes catalogues than an in-your-face pop metal band.
And Ed's playing chops may not have left their zenith by 1992, but the amplification sure did, and long before that too. It sounds nothing like Van Halen and resembles no CVH I recall listening to. You're fucking high on that one, dude.Comment
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